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WN Has Very Few Acars Messages Vs Others  
User currently offlineRw774477 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1070 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6395 times:

I've noticed WN has very few ACARS msgs compared to DL / AA / CO etc.

any ideas why ?

rw774477

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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 6240 times:



Quoting Rw774477 (Thread starter):
I've noticed WN has very few ACARS msgs compared to DL / AA / CO etc.

any ideas why ?

We have lots of them--you just don't see them...  Wink


User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6161 times:

Might be they're sending the napkins via carrier pigeons!!!  Big grin

Kidding of course, but WN is rapidly gaining on the technology front and well beyond other airlines.



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6156 times:



Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 2):
Kidding of course, but WN is rapidly gaining on the technology front and well beyond other airlines.

All of our ACARS data runs via VHF-3 and then through a CRM-114 discriminator...  Wink


User currently onlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6037 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6143 times:



Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 3):
All of our ACARS data runs via VHF-3 and then through a CRM-114 discriminator...  

As it is with most airlines.

Really, though, the OP should check out how many AS sends. Heck, they regularly send 1600+ ACARS messages a month just that are just PIREPS.



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User currently offlineNorCal From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2459 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6084 times:

I wish I had been the guy to invent ACARS. What a great idea and what considering the volume of ACARS messages from carriers all over the world they must be making a fortune. It is an expanding technology as well, before we know it pretty much everything will be done via ACARS.

User currently offlineSPREE34 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5971 times:



Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 3):
All of our ACARS data runs via VHF-3 and then through a CRM-114 discriminator...  

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User currently offlineDispatchguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1249 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5914 times:



Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 3):
and then through a CRM-114 discriminator

And even then, if you decoded them, they would all say Wing Attack Plan - R, with the P-O-E authenticator  Smile



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User currently offlineAAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3474 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5867 times:

On a more serious note, WN may be paying a "per msg" or "per character" fee. AA used to do that, but recently (within the last few years) negotiated a "flat rate" billing structure for ACARS msgs [as well as SABRE, which ACARS msgs require use of]. I no longer make an effort to "piggyback" routine ACARS msgs and am willing to send more "marginal" info msgs than previously and dispatchers are sending more "routine" enroute/terminal weather updates. OPNLguy might know for sure --or be able to get that type of info.  Wink


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5830 times:



Quoting AAR90 (Reply 8):
OPNLguy might know for sure --or be able to get that type of info.

I'm sure that the author of this 2006 article had to answer to the Coca-Cola Company. Ditto for Google for making it publicly available via a search...

http://www.aviationtoday.com/av/categories/military/955.html

Quoting Dispatchguy (Reply 7):
And even then, if you decoded them, they would all say Wing Attack Plan - R, with the P-O-E authenticator

Torture me all you want--I ain't talking.....  Wink


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6388 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5770 times:



Quoting AAR90 (Reply 8):
On a more serious note, WN may be paying a "per msg" or "per character" fee.

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User currently offlinesunstar From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3699 times:
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Is WN using acars now for PDC. I don't here them often on clr del frequencies

User currently offlineaklrno From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 941 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3643 times:

Quoting NorCal (Reply 5):

I wish I had been the guy to invent ACARS. What a great idea and what considering the volume of ACARS messages from carriers all over the world they must be making a fortune. It is an expanding technology as well, before we know it pretty much everything will be done via ACARS.

Back in the early 70's I worked for a computer science research organization that was mostly funded by DARPA (called ARPA then.)

One of our assignments was to find ways to apply advanced computer techniques to air operations for the military. We proposed a lot of ideas like glass cockpits, ACARS, EFBs and many others (of course the names were different). I was looking forward to a series of jumpseat flights to observe how pilots used or needed information. Unfortunately the government decided that private companies would do all this anyway so our project ended.

We were also asked to see how our network (ARPANET) could be applied to the military. During that project we found out that the US Pacific fleet was still using the same comm systems that were used in WWII!. The Japanese missed the communications center at Pearl Harbor.

The ARPANET stuff worked out better. Good thing. The Pentagon, then in the middle of a war, didn't want to fund the network without some military payback. Little did we know it would lead to a revolution in pornography.


User currently offlinebond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3574 times:

Quoting Rw774477 (Thread starter):
I've noticed WN has very few ACARS msgs compared to DL / AA / CO etc.

I guess I'll be the first the ask - how do you know? How are you receiving these messages?

Your answer to that question will provide the answer to your question ... especially if it's frequency related!

Jimbo



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User currently offlineALTF4 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 1212 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3309 times:

So, is WN still sending very few, 3 and a half years later? lol. Way to dig up an old thread.  


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User currently offlinefxra From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 706 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3194 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 3):
All of our ACARS data runs via VHF-3 and then through a CRM-114 discriminator...

Interesting, I think we use an Illudium Q-38 Space Modulator instead.



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User currently offlineKLASM83 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 630 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3043 times:

Quoting fxra (Reply 15):
Illudium Q-38 Space Modulator

I hear you can enhance the RF gain by using a Cathermin tube with inindium complex of +4 from an Interocitor (but it has to have a bead condenser model #: AB-619).



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User currently offlinesccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5520 posts, RR: 28
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2513 times:

They use the Bell & Howell COM Products 6700 series Recorder with the parallel-processed Retro Encabulator.


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User currently offlinebond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2462 times:

Quoting sccutler (Reply 17):
They use the Bell & Howell COM Products 6700 series Recorder with the parallel-processed Retro Encabulator.

Then we should hardly be surprized at their lack of ACARS messages!


Jimbo



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