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Piper Tomahawk's In Crosswind Landings  
User currently offlineQFTJT From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 278 posts, RR: 0
Posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4876 times:

Hi all

I am currently learning in a Piper Tomahawk and have 26 hours. Yesterday I found it very hard to land it nicely in a small crosswind. I have got a over 5 hours experience in Tomahawks and have 1-hour command. This has confused me as a have done most of my training in a Cessna 150 and landed in a 15 direct crosswind and found it ok.

What are your thoughts and experiences in Tomahawks PA-38-112 in crosswind landings, personally I find the Cessna 150/2 easier to maintain directional control down the runway



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User currently offlineStarship From South Africa, joined Nov 1999, 1098 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (14 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4842 times:

I can't answer your question, but there was an article which you may find of interest in the December 1997 issue of Plane and Pilot on the stall and spin characteristics of the Tomahawk.

As you might battle to find a copy of this article now, I can scan and e-mail it to you if you are interested. The file size will be quite large however.

Behind every "no" is a "yes"
User currently offlineChrisHabgood From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (14 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4810 times:

Do you have much piper experience other than the tomahawk??

I had a problem with the Archer/arrow/warrior, but you have to make sure your speed is on target when landing.

The low wing planes tend to float substantially longer if the speed is a little high than with a high wing plane.

Try keeping your speed a little tighter and try not to make it a pretty landing which causes planes to float longer than normal.

When dealing with crosswinds it is mandatory that you make a decision to land and not to hold the airplane off because(of my experience) it just prolongs the agony of the landing, which if it a strong crosswind and you are not very experienced, then you can have a monster to deal with...

User currently offlineB727no1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (14 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4786 times:

I have 30 hrs in that airplane. Keeping your approach speed a little higher than normal makes crosswind landings easier. Stall/spin recovery is an issue in that aircraft as well.

User currently offlineQFTJT From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 278 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (14 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4772 times:

Thanks guys

I keep that in mind next time. the Tomahawk is the only piper i have flown. I have the majority of my hours in C-150/2, and landed those in a direct 15kts crosswind from the right. What is it like to spin a Tomahawk, i've tryed stalling it without any trouble? I plan to do all my Navigation lessions in it and build up some hours for my commercial.


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