NicoEDDF From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 1029 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6732 times:
Hey Nitepilot,
For large turbofans, like GEs CF6 family you easily pay 8-10 Mio. USD. Smaller CFMs or CF34 engines I would guess you pay in the likes of 5-7 Mio. USD.
For the building time? I guess you look into 20 days or so. Could be wrong there, though.
Tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 11032 posts, RR: 72 Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6489 times:
Quoting Nitepilot79 (Thread starter): Does anybody know the average cost of a turbofan on anything from a 737 to an A380? And how long do they take to build?
General rule of thumb is that the propulsion package (engine + buildup + nacelle) on a twin is about 1/3 of the total cost of the aircraft.
So, for a 737 at ~25% discount from list, $5-7 million is about right. Ratios should be roughly similar for other aircraft.
NicoEDDF From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 1029 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 6453 times:
Quoting NicoEDDF (Reply 1): For large turbofans, like GEs CF6 family you easily pay 8-10 Mio. USD
Hmm, small mistake from my part. With an exchange rate of 1,3 USD/EUR you look into 8-10 Mio. EUR (!!!) for a CF6 engine, not US-Dollar. Sorry for that. So you pay more in the likes of 10-14 Mio USD for large TFs.
Pianos101 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 357 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6143 times:
Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 6): Not sure about Airbus, but a sales guy told me that the public list prices for Boeings include engines.
Are you sure about that? I've heard from multiple people out there that engines are definitely BFE, along with all other furnishings. I've heard a range of around $10mil for a 777 GE90, but that might include discounts that the airline gets.
If you take a look at the Boeing customer options catalog I think you'll see "provisions" for different model engines as usually included in the list price, but i'm 99% sure that the engines themselves are BFE...
Tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 11032 posts, RR: 72 Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 6127 times:
Quoting Pianos101 (Reply 7):
Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 6):
Not sure about Airbus, but a sales guy told me that the public list prices for Boeings include engines.
Are you sure about that? I've heard from multiple people out there that engines are definitely BFE, along with all other furnishings.
I'm absolutely sure the engines are BFE (or at least billed like BFE). But that doesn't mean they're not reflected in the public price list, since nobody (that I'm aware of) buys an airplane without engines. The list price should also include seats and extinguishers, even though they're BFE as well.
Trex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 3722 posts, RR: 15 Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6047 times:
China Airlines Selects GE Jet Engines For New Wide-Body Fleet
August 13, 2003 -- EVENDALE, Ohio -- China Airlines, the leading carrier of Taiwan, selected GE Aircraft Engines to power 22 wide-body passenger and cargo aircraft in an engine order valued at more than $600 million.
Taipei-based China Airlines ordered GE's CF6 engine to power 12 Airbus A330-300s, six Boeing 747-400s, and four Boeing 747-400 freighter aircraft.
so about 10 million for each CF6 ,assuming no spares
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4856 posts, RR: 13 Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5842 times:
The CFM-56-7B22 engines as used on various series of 737NG aircraft run nearly $6 million, USD.
Whiskeyflyer From Ireland, joined May 2002, 224 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5711 times:
cost of a turbofan depends on, amoungst other things
1. cycles since new/last shop visit
2. mod status
3. release certification (and where the certs come from, it may have a FAA 8130 release but some shops better than pthers)
4. equipment attached or not
5. and lastly supply and demand
so in reality the price is variable (and manufactures like RR claim they make no profit on the sale but on the support thereafter). List prices of aircraft etc do not include the extras thrown in, which on multi million deals can cost a lot. Negotiation is the key
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