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User currently offlinePilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3642 times:

Okay, I know there's been plenty of ETOPS posts (trust me, I've been searching through them). I've gathered as much info as I could find and I'm trying to recap it all, but I want to make sure I've got it right, and fill in a few missing blanks. If I've got it all right, these aircraft are approved for the following ETOPS...

Delta
757-200 (ex-AA only) [21 aircraft] - ETOPS-180
767-300 (Hawaii only) [4 aircraft] - ETOPS-180
767-300ER [57 aircraft] - ETOPS-180
767-400ER [21 aircraft] - ETOPS-180
777-200ER [8 aircraft] - ETOPS-180 (or is 207?)
777-200LR [2 aircraft] - ETOPS-180 (or is 207?)

Northwest
A330-200 [11 aircraft] - ETOPS-???
A330-300 [21 aircraft] - ETOPS-???
757-200 (Intl only) [16 aircraft] - [8x] ETOPS-90 and [8x] ETOPS-120

So unless anything needs to be corrected, the only things I need cleared up is if the 777s are 180 or 207, plus I'm not sure what the A330s are, since I know a lot of them do trans-Pacific and that only requires 90 in most cases, or 120. And 180 is needed for Hawaii. Any help on those few things would be great, thanks!

Edit: Also, is either airline certified for more then 180?

(And yes, I'm aware - an aircraft is approved, and the airline is certified, so please, we don't have to go over that again.)

[Edited 2009-02-25 17:41:25]

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User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1620 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3636 times:



Quoting Pilotboi (Thread starter):
A330-200 [11 aircraft] - ETOPS-???
A330-300 [21 aircraft] - ETOPS-???

Both 180. Don't forget the 753s, which are also 180.



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User currently offlinePilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3612 times:



Quoting KingAir200 (Reply 1):
Both 180. Don't forget the 753s, which are also 180.

Thanks. I guess I didn't even realize the 753s were ETOPS maintained, since I thought they mainly do domestic flying.

Also, I realize I made a typo in my OP. The NW 752s are half -90 and half -180 (not 120 like I typed).

So unless the 777s are different then what I said, the entire ETOPS fleet is 180, except for 8 of the NW752s which are 90. Correct?


User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9641 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3556 times:



Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 2):
I guess I didn't even realize the 753s were ETOPS maintained, since I thought they mainly do domestic flying.

They are very common on the routes to Hawaii from the west coast.



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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3497 times:



Quoting Pilotboi (Thread starter):
So unless anything needs to be corrected, the only things I need cleared up is if the 777s are 180 or 207,

All 777's are ETOPS-180. The FAA only grants ETOPS-207 on a route by route, as-needed basis. The last route to require (and allowed by FAA) ETOPS-207 flights were UA's LAX-AKL flights. Incidentally, it was on one of these flights that one of UA's 777's lost an engine at the ETOPS-207 equal-time-point and flew for 192 minutes on a single engine to their divert field of KOA.

Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 2):
Also, I realize I made a typo in my OP. The NW 752s are half -90 and half -180 (not 120 like I typed).

90 minutes is not official ETOPS, rather it's "Extended Overwater". The NW 75A's are ETOPS-180, the NW 75X's are EOW-90.


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