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A Few Questions About The A330  
User currently offlineSeemyseems From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 967 posts, RR: 7
Posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5499 times:

I'm sure this has been asked before, but I wanted to know which A330 (both -200/-300) has the most range or fly the furthest. I reckon the A330-343X has the most range but I heard the A330-200 can fly the most.

And one last question; could an A330 make LHR to NRT?

Thanks, Sam.


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User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5462 times:



Quoting Seemyseems (Thread starter):
I'm sure this has been asked before, but I wanted to know which A330 (both -200/-300) has the most range or fly the furthest.

It was sort of asked before here:
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/tech_ops/read.main/228999/

The answer actually comes from the A330 ACAP, but the link from the above thread doesn't seem to be working now. However, from my saved copy:

Range with payload to MZFW:
A330-200: ~4200 nm
A333-300: ~3700 nm

Range with max fuel at MTOW:
A330-200: ~9100 nm *
A330-300: ~5500 nm

* - The A330-200's max fuel limit corresponds to almost zero payload, so this isn't really a practical value. At the same payload as an A330-300, a -200 will go about ~6200 nm.

Quoting Seemyseems (Thread starter):

And one last question; could an A330 make LHR to NRT?

A -200 could do it fairly easily with some payload restrictions. A -300 couldn't do it with an economical payload.

Tom.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11611 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5444 times:



Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 1):
A -200 could do it fairly easily with some payload restrictions.

Is that including the A330-200HGW?



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User currently offlineSeemyseems From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 967 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5407 times:



Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 1):
Range with payload to MZFW:
A330-200: ~4200 nm
A333-300: ~3700 nm

Range with max fuel at MTOW:
A330-200: ~9100 nm *
A330-300: ~5500 nm

Thanks for that! Would that be the RR powered models? I prefer the A330 with the GE/PW engines.



seemyseems
User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5164 times:



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 2):

Is that including the A330-200HGW?

I'm not sure...that's for a MTOW of 233,000 kg. I can't tell from the ACAP if that's the HGW or not.

Quoting Seemyseems (Reply 3):

Thanks for that! Would that be the RR powered models? I prefer the A330 with the GE/PW engines.

That happened to be for GE, but they're very very close (within 200 miles of each other) for all three engine types.

Tom.


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7402 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5111 times:



Quoting Seemyseems (Thread starter):
And one last question; could an A330 make LHR to NRT?

AF is using an A330-200 to operate one of its 3 x Daily CDG-NRT-CDG (AF272/AF279), and without any restriction. So I guess LHR-NRT-LHR is no problem either for the A332.

AF used also its A332 on CDG-HKG-CDG and CDG-KIX-CDG.


User currently offlineSeemyseems From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 967 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5090 times:



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 5):
AF is using an A330-200 to operate one of its 3 x Daily CDG-NRT-CDG (AF272/AF279), and without any restriction. So I guess LHR-NRT-LHR is no problem either for the A332.

AF used also its A332 on CDG-HKG-CDG and CDG-KIX-CDG.

I remember seeing the pictures, I thought it was a bit odd. Thanks for that FlySSC!



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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5062 times:

Aeroflot was planning on flying it's A330 on SVO-LAX this summer; but those plans have changed.


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User currently offlineAstuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 9975 posts, RR: 96
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5032 times:
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Quoting Seemyseems (Thread starter):
And one last question; could an A330 make LHR to NRT?

A330's have progressively been getting more capable (and heavier).

The ACAP document referred to by Tdscanuck shows the current 233 tonne version of the A330-200 to be capable of 6 750Nm with a payload of around 25 tonnes.

LHR-NRT is 5 200Nm, at which still-air range the 233t A330-200 will lift about 90 000lb (about 41 tonnes, which is a pretty good payload)
Of course air is never still, so I'm guessing about 6 000Nm would be representative of real-world LHR-NRT, at which air range, the payload is around 75000lb or 34 tonnes.
That would equate to around 250 pax plus about 11 tonnes of cargo.
Which I guess means "yes"..  Smile

Since the ACAP was published, Trent powered A330's have reduced their SFC by 1.3% and P+W powered ones by around 1%. The Trent improvement should add c. 1 tonne to the payload capability at those ranges.

Of course, next year, airlines will be able to take A330-200's rated to 238 tonnes MTOW, which should make a very useful addition to the already useful range/payload capability that I've described.


Quoting Seemyseems (Thread starter):
but I wanted to know which A330 (both -200/-300) has the most range or fly the furthest

The A330-300's are seriously fuel volume limited compared to the A330-200 without the A330-200's centre fuel tank.
As Tdscanuck said, the A330-200 gets within a whisker of MTOW just by filling the tanks - the 1.3% Trent 700 SFC gain should give the A330-200 a ferry range of the order of 9 500Nm - the same as the 748i  faint   biggrin 

Rgds


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