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Front-Door Pax Door On ATR- Where To Put Cargo?  
User currently offlinePhatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1359 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6361 times:


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Finnair uses the front door as a pax loading door on their ATRs, normally reserved for the cargo section. In lieu of the cargo section, does this configuration move the cargo section to another part of the aircraft, such that the volume of cargo space remain the same?

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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6323 times:

It's possible they only use the other cargo hold in the back behind the galley section but someone else familiar with this config. would have a better answer.


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User currently offlineOkie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3102 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6246 times:

I checked Wikipedia and Finnair ordered variant with front passenger door to allow use of jet bridge at front of aircraft. Although I have been on an ATR's where they used the jet bridge at the rear. I suspect you get to walk through a mountain of bags.
The ATR's have been from my experience one of few aircraft where moving passengers for CG issues is pretty common and carry a stinger to keep aircraft from tipping on its tail while loading at the rear. They have some cargo space at the rear but I am not sure how much weight that can be placed at the back with that much moment.

Okie


User currently offline744rules From Belgium, joined Mar 2002, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6145 times:

not 100pct sure, but if memory serves well, the std ATR takes cgo/bags behind the cockpit.

There are 2 net sections, so a small gangway is created.for acces between cockpit and cabin, but not for pax use. This is for the version with paxdoor in the rear. The -72 also uses a tailstand to avoid tipping during boarding/deboarding.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5973 times:

If not mistaken the ATR72 has a net on the RH side to hold the cargo towards the right,providing a space on the Left to walk through.
regds
MEL.



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User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5715 times:

Quoting Phatfarmlines (Thread starter):
finnair uses the front door as a pax loading door on their ATRs

Finnair don't fly ATR's anymore, also the 'front-door-ATR's are sold out. The OH-KRA in the picture above first went to Aero Airlines, then to Aer Arann.

Their partner FinnComm operate ATR-42/72 aircraft now in Finland, with more traditional doors.

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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5682 times:



Quoting 744rules (Reply 3):

That is the question the OP is asking. The standard ATR72 has a large cargo hold just aft of the cockpit... but with the forward pax door version where does the cargo go..? The area taken up by cargo is now pax seating......



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User currently offlineSuper737 From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Feb 2008, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5619 times:


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Good morning, folks having worked with this a/c several times I can tell you that the above picture, showing the starboard side, both doors are access to the holds believe it or not.



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