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Do Airlines Perform Flight Tests?  
User currently offlineAlexinwa From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1146 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4262 times:

Today Icelandair begins service to SEA.

So I'm wondering did they do a test flight before service began or just base it off of computers and the knowledge of the 757 that the flight will work?

Makes me wonder about all long-haul flights?


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User currently offlineContrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4247 times:

Just a guess here but they'll have to fly over some supplies and people to get the station set-up so perhaps they'll use there own a/c. Thats what my airline does so in doing so the route is "tested" before rev service begins.


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User currently offlineFredT From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 2185 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4001 times:

If it was required to test fly every new route beforehand, air taxi/executive charter operators would be in trouble methinks.  Smile


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31660 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3990 times:

If it cannot be computed through Experience & calculations,A Practical test is carried out,But then it depends on the Airlines SOP in place.
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User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3956 times:



Quoting Contrails15 (Reply 1):
If it was required to test fly every new route beforehand, air taxi/executive charter operators would be in trouble methinks.

Different rules. Maybe not a flight test but at a minimum they will have to have the airport (and any alternate airports) listed in their ops specs and have shown they have the software in the box and charts in the bag to conduct the flight under FAA rules. A flight test would be the easiest way to accomplish that.


User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3927 times:



Quoting DXing (Reply 4):
Maybe not a flight test but at a minimum they will have to have the airport (and any alternate airports) listed in their ops specs and have shown they have the software in the box and charts in the bag to conduct the flight under FAA rules. A flight test would be the easiest way to accomplish that.

Wouldn't an inspection of the charts and a sim ride be a lot easier way to do that?

Tom.


User currently offlineFredT From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 2185 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3926 times:

Besides, what would a flight test prove? That with the loading of the day and the weather of the day, all is fine and dandy...


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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3915 times:



Quoting Alexinwa (Thread starter):
Today Icelandair begins service to SEA.

So I'm wondering did they do a test flight before service began or just base it off of computers and the knowledge of the 757 that the flight will work?

Makes me wonder about all long-haul flights?

What you have described in not a "test" flight but a "route proving" flight, and yes there are times that an operator may choose make a "route proving" flight prior to scheduled service, but they are not required.


User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5961 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3906 times:



Quoting 474218 (Reply 7):
What you have described in not a "test" flight but a "route proving" flight, and yes there are times that an operator may choose make a "route proving" flight prior to scheduled service, but they are not required.

Exactly. Often times, with airports that require special certification, an airline will spend a few months preparing for the certification process, and then up to a month, or so, of the actual proving and certification. This can involve flights, both real and simulated.



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User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3831 times:



Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 5):
Wouldn't an inspection of the charts and a sim ride be a lot easier way to do that?

Don't think a sim would count. CO has been flying to Hawaii for years with wide bodies and 757's, but in order to use 737's on the route they are going to have to fly there and back to satisfy the FAA.


User currently offlineBrandi747 From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 15 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3181 times:

Check flights or cert flights are conducted to make sure the aircraft is airworthy. I schedule airspace for Boeing for flights like this and test flights for radar and what not.


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User currently offlineMoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2291 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3173 times:



Quoting DXing (Reply 9):
Don't think a sim would count. CO has been flying to Hawaii for years with wide bodies and 757's, but in order to use 737's on the route they are going to have to fly there and back to satisfy the FAA.

Is that because of some ETOPS requirement? I can see why the FAA would want an airline to show they can perform something like that in real life, but I don't see where it would make a difference for individual flight crews when it comes to things like shooting the approach at the end of a long drone over the Pacific.



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