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T\O Under Havey Winds  
User currently offlineMaor From Israel, joined Jul 2000, 117 posts, RR: 0
Posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1423 times:

hey how are you alll aviation experts..

i recently bought fly! with its amazing 757-200er airline package which i think is the most realistic panel and aircrafts avilable today in the market

i got a simple question..
whenever i am trying to depart in a havey wind situation my plane always deverts from the runway ALTOUGH i am using full rudders !!!!

this thing is really getting under my skin and i want to learn how to operate the aircraft in the most realistic way that fly! lets me to so can somone please give me an adivce on what to do in these extreme situation

thanks in advance


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User currently offlineHeavyjet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1301 times:

>>whenever i am trying to depart in a havey wind situation...<<

What's a "havey" wind? Do you mean "heavy" as in "strong" wind? If so, how much wind are you talking about? It is possible to run out of rudder to correct for a strong x-wind and possible run off the side of the runway. You also have to use aileron.

User currently offlineMaor From Israel, joined Jul 2000, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (15 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1289 times:

i am talking bout this

i am taking off in like 30 knts of wind coming from my right side
lets say
the runway is 36 and the wind comes from 100 deg

what do i do !!!!!!

User currently offlineILS 15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (15 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1292 times:

You may have exceeded the crosswind limit. 30 knots at a nearly direct crosswind will push almost any plane off the runway. As you rotate you'd need to add a lot of aileron because when the nose gear leaves the ground you'll lose a lot of controll. Even in a 757 I'd probably wait for the winds to die down.


User currently offlineDC-9CAPT From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (15 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1288 times:

Also, this is a technique....I am not familiar with your flight simulator though....

Keep your eyes focussed well toward the end of the runway to hold the centerline. Keeping a near-vision focus over the nose will cause you to overcorrect.

As has been stated, neutral ailerons won't help you at all. Initially in a real, heavy aircraft the steering will be done with the nose wheel tiller (until about 60kts) In general keep the ailerons turned into the wind. If the wind is from the right, ailerons should be turned to the right (right aileron up, left one down). Once rudder steering is effective, don't over correct. As has been stated, the aircraft will get REAL squirrely once the nosewheel rotates! Keep the ailerons into the wind, and slowly adjust to neutral when the main lifts up. This is a skill that takes some time and practice.

Also, practice on a lighter crosswind, 30 kts is varsity level for a novice!

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 30408 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (15 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1275 times:

You might consider a "differential power takeoff" That is where you hold off power on the upwind side of the aircraft so the aircraft has a tendency to turn into the wind.

This is strictly schoolhouse rules. There was a CASA 212 up here a couple of years ago that attempted a takeoff from Sparvohn(SPL?). The pilot told the Feds that the plane wasn't developing full power on the one side When they got the CASA and the flight recorders out from C-130 that flew the wreakage back from there the discovered that the pilot discussed a differential power takeoff.

The engines also bench ran ok anyway.

User currently offlineRalgha From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 1614 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (15 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1248 times:

Also keep in mind that I haven't yet seen a PC simulator that had an accurate wind model on the ground.  

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