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Pilot Vs. Aircraft Mechanic  
User currently offline747Fleet From Saudi Arabia, joined Jul 2009, 10 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13356 times:

hi every one

i'm aircraft mechnic and working on 747-400/300/200/100  Smile

but recently i became this thing "i wana be a pilot"

and really confused and not sure should i go for it or not

so please share your exp. about this subject




overall if i decided to go

i would go to be a pilot in ERAU ...


thanks in adv

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User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13337 times:



Quoting 747Fleet (Thread starter):
i would go to be a pilot in ERAU ...

I'm an ERAU graduate and had a great experience there. Granted, the job market for pilots right now is non-existent.


What kind of pilot do you want to be? Do you want to make a living out of it or just fly for fun?


User currently offline747Fleet From Saudi Arabia, joined Jul 2009, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 13313 times:

honestly both


and the job availability for pilots depends on what ?


User currently offline727forever From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 793 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 13285 times:



Quoting 747Fleet (Thread starter):
i would go to be a pilot in ERAU ...

Do your homework and research it out thoroughly. The job market is non-existant right now and will remain so for the next 2-3 years in my estimation. I'm not sure what it looks like in Saudia Arabia, but the rest of the planet for the most part has dried up when it comes to pilot jobs. I think this will ease in the coming years as there will be many pilots retiring, however it is still a very tough profession to get into and honestly most that start off never make it to a major airline. Also, when choosing schools shop around. ERAU is a very good school, but it is very expensive and unless you come from a lot of money, you'll be paying those loans whether you have a job or not. Something to keep in mind.

727forever



727forever
User currently offline747Fleet From Saudi Arabia, joined Jul 2009, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 13246 times:



Quoting 727forever (Reply 3):
Do your homework and research it out thoroughly. The job market is non-existant right now and will remain so for the next 2-3 years in my estimation. I'm not sure what it looks like in Saudia Arabia, but the rest of the planet for the most part has dried up when it comes to pilot jobs. I think this will ease in the coming years as there will be many pilots retiring, however it is still a very tough profession to get into and honestly most that start off never make it to a major airline. Also, when choosing schools shop around. ERAU is a very good school, but it is very expensive and unless you come from a lot of money, you'll be paying those loans whether you have a job or not. Something to keep in mind.

any another flight schools u know ?

will about the jobs saudi arabia bought about 50 airbus and also i think they will ask for pilots

loads of them and if we have 300 pilot i don't think so they will recrute them all unless they are all good to be recruted


User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 13193 times:



Quoting 747Fleet (Reply 4):

will about the jobs saudi arabia bought about 50 airbus and also i think they will ask for pilots

loads of them and if we have 300 pilot i don't think so they will recrute them all unless they are all good to be recruted

There's no way you're going to fly an airbus straight out of college. I graduated from ERAU with just under 300hrs, that's a useless amount of hours for an airline, and for pretty much any other flying job specially with this economic crisis. You need 2000hrs or more if you want to be flying in an airline. Right now there's no jobs whatsoever for low time pilots, which is what you would be when you graduate. If you were to start school right now maybe there will be more jobs for you, but I wouldn't bet my money on it.

If you want to fly for fun though you don't need to go to ERAU and spend $200000 just to get a private pilots license. Search online, you'll find plenty of places to get a your license for $5000 or so.

I'd say right now you're better off as keeping your job as a mechanic.


User currently offline747Fleet From Saudi Arabia, joined Jul 2009, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 13130 times:

$200000 ???

is this just to deliever a point or actuall money i'm going to pay ? i only need 250 hours to work with saudi arabia airlines


saudi arabia airlines recrute newbies pilot and give them training as they become F/O then P to fly 747

as the airplane get bigger you become old  Smile

first u with fly with embraer 170 then u claim up ...


User currently offlineNorCal From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2459 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 13120 times:



Quoting 747Fleet (Thread starter):

ERAU is a great school if you have the money. If you don't there are plenty of other programs out there that are a little cheaper. UND, ASU, St. Louis, Western Michigan, Purdue, to name a few.

Do this job because you love it because you will never make a ton of money. Be ready to live in poverty the first couple years of the career under a mountain of debt with almost zero job security. You will be furloughed or laid off at some point, so prepare yourself for that. Realize you can be asked to be on the clock for 16 hours at a time and that you will wake up in hotel rooms and forget what city you are in. Live a modest lifestyle and plan it around your contractual minimum pay. Don't plan your life around 100 hours of pay a month because that is difficult to attain. Be prepared to move frequently or commute a lot.
[/b] This profession is rapidly losing the glamour it once had because [b] there will always be someone willing to do your job for less. If you can live with these realities and still enjoy flying then welcome aboard.


User currently offline747Fleet From Saudi Arabia, joined Jul 2009, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 13087 times:



Quoting NorCal (Reply 7):
Do this job because you love it because you will never make a ton of money. Be ready to live in poverty the first couple years of the career under a mountain of debt with almost zero job security. You will be furloughed or laid off at some point, so prepare yourself for that. Realize you can be asked to be on the clock for 16 hours at a time and that you will wake up in hotel rooms and forget what city you are in. Live a modest lifestyle and plan it around your contractual minimum pay. Don't plan your life around 100 hours of pay a month because that is difficult to attain. Be prepared to move frequently or commute a lot.
[/b] This profession is rapidly losing the glamour it once had because [b] there will always be someone willing to do your job for less. If you can live with these realities and still enjoy flying then welcome aboard.

that's encouraging

thanks alot C.  Smile


User currently offlineNorCal From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2459 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 13050 times:



Quoting 747Fleet (Reply 8):

It might be different in Saudi Arabia than it is here (I hope it's much better) but that is the reality of the industry in the US.

Many people still think this is the lifestyle of a pilot



Getting all the cute FA's, making 300K a year, and only working 10 days a month is the glamourous picture of yesterday. That isn't the case anymore so if you do have a picture like the one above in your head get it out because that isn't what the lifestyle is like anymore.


User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 13048 times:



Quoting 747Fleet (Reply 6):

is this just to deliever a point or actuall money i'm going to pay ?

It is rare, but some people have paid over 200000. You will have pay over 100000 by the time you graduate that I can guarantee.

Obviously you don't pay it all at once, but expect to pay about 30000 to 40000 a semester at ERAU.


User currently offline747Fleet From Saudi Arabia, joined Jul 2009, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 13022 times:



Quoting NorCal (Reply 9):
It might be different in Saudi Arabia than it is here (I hope it's much better) but that is the reality of the industry in the US.

Many people still think this is the lifestyle of a pilot



Getting all the cute FA's, making 300K a year, and only working 10 days a month is the glamourous picture of yesterday. That isn't the case anymore so if you do have a picture like the one above in your head get it out because that isn't what the lifestyle is like anymore.

lol man i laughed alot

this not the picture in my head but a pilot get some of this .. lol let say occsionally lol

thank captin


User currently offline413X3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1983 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12965 times:



Quoting 747Fleet (Reply 6):
i only need 250 hours to work with saudi arabia airlines

Remind me never to fly with them


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21510 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12937 times:



Quoting 413X3 (Reply 12):
Quoting 747Fleet (Reply 6):
i only need 250 hours to work with saudi arabia airlines

Remind me never to fly with them

Ab-initio programs like that are not uncommon outside the US. Many European carriers have them.

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offline413X3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1983 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 12868 times:

what airline can I be right seat with 250 hours in metal jets?

User currently offlineN353SK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 820 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 12847 times:



Quoting 413X3 (Reply 14):
what airline can I be right seat with 250 hours in metal jets?

Any airline that hires you as a cadet and pays for your training.


User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 12824 times:

Quoting N353SK (Reply 15):
Any airline that hires you as a cadet and pays for your training.

Which don't exist in the US.

Heck, then you got the scammers at Gulfstream, where YOU pay the airline to fly for them.  banghead 

[Edited 2009-09-17 14:08:04]

[Edited 2009-09-17 14:09:13]

User currently offline413X3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1983 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 12782 times:



Quoting N353SK (Reply 15):
Any airline that hires you as a cadet and pays for your training.

I simply asked which European airlines do this. So a Lufthansa first officer on a 737 has 250 hours?


User currently offline747Fleet From Saudi Arabia, joined Jul 2009, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 12761 times:

guys saudi arabia airlines hires those pilots with 250 hours and train them for about 1 year then those trainers become first officers

this airlines hires those pilots with 250hrs and train them for the airline goods

we have only 4 airlines is saudi arabia

1 is the big boss
3 new companies and some of them still weak


User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 12728 times:



Quoting 747Fleet (Reply 18):
guys saudi arabia airlines hires those pilots with 250 hours and train them for about 1 year then those trainers become first officers

OK, where do I sign up? Big grin  duck 


User currently offline747Fleet From Saudi Arabia, joined Jul 2009, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 12672 times:



Quoting FLY2HMO (Reply 19):
OK, where do I sign up?

u got a instant MSG, goodluck


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 12621 times:

I guess the title of the thread is very different from the topic at hand.Probably should read Aircraft mechanic to pilot.

Given the choice its about likes....I prefer Mx to Flt ops.But I have a few collegues who moved from AMEs to Pilots on the same type over a period of time.

regds
MEL.



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineShhpanked From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 12603 times:



Quoting 747Fleet (Reply 18):
guys saudi arabia airlines hires those pilots with 250 hours and train them for about 1 year then those trainers become first officers

This might not be applicable to SV but my understanding about these 250 hour minimums for prospective FOs is if they already have a type rating. The only way to do that however is if you pay for your type rating through a company similar to Simuflite, Simcenter, Pan Am Academy, etc. I could be 100% off the mark on this but it's just what a heard through the grapevine.



People fly airplanes and pilots fly helicopters.
User currently offlineGF777 From Bahrain, joined Jan 2009, 40 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 12591 times:

Very interesting, as my self working as as aircraft mechanic with a life dream to become a pilot. I am in a phase between going to fulfill my dream as a pilot or to carry on my current job.

Is there any pilots here who were engineers or mechanic, do you regret move to pilot?

thanks


User currently offline747Fleet From Saudi Arabia, joined Jul 2009, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 12474 times:



Quoting GF777 (Reply 23):
Very interesting, as my self working as as aircraft mechanic with a life dream to become a pilot. I am in a phase between going to fulfill my dream as a pilot or to carry on my current job.

Is there any pilots here who were engineers or mechanic, do you regret move to pilot?

thanks

exactly ... back on track  Smile


25 DocLightning : Let me chime in here. I have absolutely zero experience working in the aviation field, but I do work in a field that required me to spend a few years
26 Shhpanked : These considerations are pretty trivial don't you think? I hate waking up early just but like everyone else in the world I just have to deal with it.
27 Tdscanuck : Nope. Not for me, anyway. Not to say that they can't be overcome, or might not be worth it, but they're far from trivial. Getting up early is no big
28 Shhpanked : But I'm sort of wondering is it something that should really weigh into a prospective student pilots decision to become a career pilot? I was unaware
29 SEPilot : Excellent point, and it applies to other fields as well. For me it was musician; I did seriously consider pursuing a career as an oboist. But I recog
30 Mir : You bet it is. If it's going to make your life miserable, you might as well know beforehand so you can seek other options. I'm still moving ahead wit
31 Post contains links Motopolitico : I think this particular ATP's blog has very sound advice for anyone looking to embark on a career in flying. http://fl250.blogspot.com/ No connection
32 DocLightning : How about waking up early tomorrow, but really late the next day, and then mid-day on the day after? I guarantee you will get very little sleep at al
33 Shhpanked : I work off very little sleep as it is and it doesn't bother me so clearly I'm the outlier. I'm typically in bed by 1130AM and up by 430AM which seems
34 413x3 : mistake caused from lack of sleep? You probably meant 11:30pm
35 VAAengineer : Stay in MX if you make the right moves you can make alot of $
36 HAWK21M : Also depends on the place one works at. regds MEL.
37 474218 : Another thing to remember is "if your Mother and Farther were married to each other" you are not qualified to be an airline pilot.
38 B747FE : Asalaam Alaykum!! No regrets at all. If flying is what you want, go for it. Regards, B747FE.
39 DALMD88 : So you want to go from some one that fixes airplanes to the one that says it's broke! INOP, I'm not taking this thing. I've been a AMT for close to 20
40 DocLightning : That's just because you're strange. Bingo. Which is why I put up with godawful hours, no pay, and mind-bending liability if it means that I can fix b
41 GF777 : Thanks guys that is really helpful.. Regards
42 Airbuster : I was flying an MD11 as Cruise Relief Pilot with 300hrs TT and a Fokker 70/100 with about 600hrs. It's not uncommon in europe, you get drilled into t
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