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Pilots: Your Favourite 'named' Approaches  
User currently offlineMetroliner From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 1065 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3644 times:

Good morning to you all on this lovely Christmas morning! I'm here at work flicking through the system and thinking about named approaches on the DL network. By this I mean those like the River and Expressway Visuals at DCA and LGA, which involve some spectacular low turns and changes of heading.

There is, too, that amazing video of the DL 737 turning a spectacularly low final in LGA to give you a sense of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac9OOPmUS80 I'm specifically going to non-rev into LGA next year just to try that one out!

My question is an open one - from your perspective, what's your personal favourite 'named' approach to an airport? And for whatever reason - whether the amazing scenery or the procedure itself, or both, in that case  Smile

Merry Christmas to you all,

Toni


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User currently offlineMax777geek From Italy, joined Mar 2007, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3548 times:

circling in limj  Silly

User currently offlineTb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1547 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3542 times:

Any approach into DCA. The River Visual 19 is probably the best one. I've only done it a couple of times but it was really cool!


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User currently offlineMetroliner From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 1065 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3517 times:



Quoting Tb727 (Reply 2):
Any approach into DCA.

DCA is on my to-see list, for sure! I bet it gets busy in the front for that one.

Quoting Max777geek (Reply 1):
circling in limj

What have you flown into there? Genoa looks interesting. I was hoping that someone would chime in on some central European ones, too, since there are some amazing ones there - LOWI springs to mind!

Cheers,

Toni



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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5845 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3507 times:

The Silver ILS, in Reno, NV, and the former MAGIC ILS in Butte, MT come to mind.


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User currently offlinePhatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1343 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3398 times:

The "Roaring Fork Visual" in ASE is an interesting one, albeit it is also a flexible approach as there are several routes one can take before approaching for finals.

The "Power Plant Visual" in PHX is also interesting if you are coming from the west. Planes fly a low, quick dog-leg pattern towards the APS solar power plant over Mesa/Tempe.


User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 599 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3327 times:

I'm not a pilot, so I'm speaking from a passenger's point of view, and I'm biased, but the Harbor Visual at PWM is amazing on a clear day...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HBB_ZCcfvQ&fmt=22

Flew into DCA and we did the River Visual but I was on the wrong side so I have no opinion of it.


User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2525 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3318 times:

Although I believe it's changed now, many Riddle folk will have a special place in their heart for the Rose 7

User currently offlineWhappeh From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1562 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3313 times:



Quoting PWMRamper (Reply 6):
I'm not a pilot, so I'm speaking from a passenger's point of view, and I'm biased, but the Harbor Visual at PWM is amazing on a clear day...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HBB_...mt=22

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User currently offlineMetroliner From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 1065 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3180 times:



Quoting PWMRamper (Reply 6):
Harbor Visual at PWM is amazing on a clear day...

Wow, that's very beautiful!

Quoting Phatfarmlines (Reply 5):
The "Roaring Fork Visual" in ASE is an interesting one, albeit it is also a flexible approach as there are several routes one can take before approaching for finals.

I remember having lots of fun doing this one in FS98 with some add on scenery. ASE is simply out of this world!



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User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3049 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3126 times:

The VOR 13L/13R (Canarsie) Approach into JFK is pretty cool and you don't get straightened out and lined up until you are pretty low.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EQ9-m-nuPI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJXPXUD6Opo

http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0913/00610VG13LR.PDF

Quoting PWMRamper (Reply 6):
I'm not a pilot, so I'm speaking from a passenger's point of view, and I'm biased, but the Harbor Visual at PWM is amazing on a clear day...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HBB_...mt=22

Wow, you're not kidding. That was great, thanks!

http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0913/00329HARBOR_VIS29.PDF



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User currently offlineAvrich From New Zealand, joined Apr 2009, 64 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2979 times:

I hope some ASA pilots can contribute here.

I'm not a pilot either, but I flew into SIT a number of years ago in an ASA 737 and we flew what must have been a visual approach with a VERY tight turn at low level onto rwy 11.

I've never experienced "pulling g's" like that in a large aircraft before or since.

JNU provides some interesting "tight" approaches as well.



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User currently offlineJetboy757 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2955 times:

Smoke Stack Visual RWY 02 @ Kahului, Maui.

User currently offlineStevenjehly From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2864 times:

Is there a name for the approach to Juneau, Alaska (JNU)? I think it is from the north only. I've made it several times as a passenger and the view of the Mendenhall Glacier out the left side is spectacular (when you can see it!). I just read the post from Avrich. I lived in Sitka (SIT) for almost 30 years and have landed in SIT in all kinds of weather. The view of Mt Edgecumb and the surrounding islands is breathtaking. There have been plenty of times that one could not see anything until you landed. I can remember many landings when the passangers clapped. The weather in SIT & JNU can be very, very bad but the Alaska Airlines crews are first class professionals.

[Edited 2009-12-27 09:43:12 by stevenjehly]

User currently offlineAvrich From New Zealand, joined Apr 2009, 64 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2824 times:

I've approached JNU from the south before, flying down the Gastineau Channel (actually inside the channel, we were below the peaks on either side) and then another very tight, very low turn onto rwy 8.


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User currently onlineDiamondFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1400 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2808 times:



Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 7):
Although I believe it's changed now, many Riddle folk will have a special place in their heart for the Rose 7

Nope, its still the Rose 7. I love nothing more than when ATC tries to give it to non-Riddle planes. I seem to get that problem all the time, flying out of one of the other flight schools there in Daytona. Not that a quick "unable" doesn't solve the issue.

-DiamondFlyer



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User currently offlineTb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1547 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2739 times:

Oh yeah, the ILS 11 into PAKT is beautiful too! You really have to be on the lookout for float plane traffic though, that place can be nuts sometimes.


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User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2715 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2709 times:

I love the Downtown Visual Rwy 09 into YYJ.

You cruise in right over the harbor in the heart of downtown Victoria, then swing out just west of Mill Bay, with the bay off your right and green tree covered mountains to the left. Then you make a gradual right turn onto final and fly over Mill Bay, buzzing the floatplane base just before touchdown.

The Bay/Elliot/Alki visuals into SEA are quite scenic too. You go right down Elliot Bay, with the Space Needle and downtown skyline just off your left.



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User currently offlineJetpilot From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3130 posts, RR: 29
Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2314 times:

I have flown the JFK Parkway Vis 13L Approach many times and it's my favorite approach. I have never seen them use the Parkway Vis to 13R. I decided to try it in FSX and now I realize why they don't use that approach. The turn to line up on final is pretty steep and you roll out much closer to the runway not really giving much time to correct. I uploaded the vid to Youtube if you want to check it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEAUjgErJyI


User currently offlinePilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3139 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2219 times:



Quoting Metroliner (Reply 3):
DCA is on my to-see list, for sure! I bet it gets busy in the front for that one.

It's pretty simple really. Keep it over the river and all is well. Personally, I think circling to 33 from the Mt. Vernon Visual is more challenging because of the incredibly short runway and lack of time to line up well (again, over the river).

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 10):
The VOR 13L/13R (Canarsie) Approach into JFK is pretty cool and you don't get straightened out and lined up until you are pretty low.

It's really fun at night!  Smile

I don't know if I have a "favorite". Not named but I've done a visual to 26 (I think) in ABQ. That's a lot of fun because of the mountains right of the end. Pretty much a continuous turn to final while looking up at 12,000ft peaks.

I'm happy any time I get to turn the autopilot off and hand fly. It's something that is challenging and a good reason to take pride. Anybody can do a coupled ILS to 200 feet with a little practice. A nice, circling approach where you level the wings right on centerline and finish it off with a nice touchdown takes some skill and a lot of luck!  Smile



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User currently offlineSLUAviator From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 357 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2061 times:

Big fan of the Quiet Bridge and Tip Toe into SFO. But only when I am driving. View from the back probably sucks.


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User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2715 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1987 times:



Quoting Pilotpip (Reply 19):
Not named but I've done a visual to 26 (I think) in ABQ.

That's a nice one. Real fun coming in from the East over the Manzano mountains. Talk about a slam dunk  Wow!

A few other nice ones are 10R into MRY, 27 at SAN, and any visual into FCA (or is it GPI now?).


Quoting SLUAviator (Reply 20):
Big fan of the Quiet Bridge and Tip Toe into SFO.

My favorite part of those is getting paired up with traffic right off your wingtip. Pretty sweet to be cleared for the Quiet Bridge and find yourself matching a Cathay Pacific 747 down the parallel approaches.



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User currently offlineSLUAviator From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 357 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1963 times:



Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 21):
My favorite part of those is getting paired up with traffic right off your wingtip. Pretty sweet to be cleared for the Quiet Bridge and find yourself matching a Cathay Pacific 747 down the parallel approaches.

I'm racing the guy next to me every time I do it. Even if he does not know it. Damn if I will let them beat me!



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User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7951 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1907 times:

From the back, one of the best is the Down The Bay Visual into SFO when coming back from a hop over the drink. Invariably you get a vista of the sunrise over the Golden Gate, before descending straight over the city then making that long 180 to line up for 28R. If the place is partially fogged in, then Mt. Tam and Diablo make nice little islands in a sea of white until you get over the bay and into the clear.


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