Ryand36 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 19 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3526 times:
I flew to Orlando on VS this year and there was only 2 flight deck crew. I always thought a route this long needed 3 pilots? Was just wondering what the rules are about needing an extra pilot on board. Does this solely depend on sector length or other factors? Also do these same rules apply for Cain crew?
Luftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 1073 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3481 times:
Quoting Ryand36 (Reply 4): Do you happen to know the EU laws regulations?
Unfortunately not, and I don't even know if there are general rules for European carriers. Maybe it's the affair of each country's own aviation administration.
However, an LX pilot posted on this board that their East Coast routes are stuffed with 2 cockpit crew, whereas LAX as a West Coast destination has a 3 man crew. So VS is not the only one who only have 2 pilots for shorter Europe to USA flights.
[Edited 2009-12-30 16:30:12]
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FlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2316 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3417 times:
Well as far as pilots go LGW-SFB was usually two crew but the Caribbean runs were all three crew (mainly because all of these routes were double drops and over 11 hours).
As for the cabin crew, just prior to our demise we reduced to minimum crew on the longhaul flights 8 crew on the 767-300, (the same if the 762 was used as backup so the correct number would be downroute for the return trip on the 763). However, we used to operate with 9 or 10 on the longhaul runs. They were tough flights to do, 11+ hours with two drops and then a long ride to the hotel... We managed, no rotation or anything just carefully placed breaks in between services.
EDIT: Forgot to mention, on my first 767 run we had 13 cabin crew, more than there were jumpseats. Flightdeck seat for me then
[Edited 2009-12-31 03:13:13]
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