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User currently offlineKimon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1534 times:

What were those odd looking side-yokes on Caravelles?
A precursor of the side-stick?
Does anyone have good photos?

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User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1526 times:



Quoting Kimon (Thread starter):
What were those odd looking side-yokes on Caravelles?

Those are the main yokes...same function as in any other yoke-based airplane, just different mounting.

Quoting Kimon (Thread starter):
A precursor of the side-stick?

Not really...the motion on the yoke is the same as a conventional between-the-legs yoke.

Quoting Kimon (Thread starter):
Does anyone have good photos?

This is the best one I could find:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Trans...t=&prev_id=1272858&next_id=1272856

Tom.


User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5692 posts, RR: 44
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1505 times:
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A quick comparison between the image posted above and-


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Illustrates quite clearly how much DH Comet there was in the pointy end of the Caravelle

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If your camera sends text messages, that could explain why your photos are rubbish!
User currently offline411A From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1826 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1444 times:

The deHavilland Comet and SUD Caravelle designs, although looking very similar at the pointy end, were entirely different, from a systems perspective.
The Caravelle design was very advanced for its time, fully hydraulic powered flight controls, and many redundant systems.
Also, the Caravelle was the first jet transport airplane to perform CATIIIB autolands, using a Lear designed duplex autopilot system.
This design was used (as I recall) by the French Post Office for air mail, however, not for passenger ops.
Passenger ops required a triplex autoflight system, such as the one designed by Smiths and installed on the HS.121 Trident.


User currently offlineFabo From Slovakia, joined Aug 2005, 1219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1367 times:

Well, the allready old by that time DC-2 had it, so hardly a "first" or some kind of "sidestick precursor" - remember by the time of DC-2 the computers were merely imagination (well, sorta).


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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17030 posts, RR: 67
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1360 times:

Sidesticks do not really require computers, although I guess you need fully powered controls to make them really practical.


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User currently offlineKimon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1334 times:

The Caravelle was also the first clean-swept wing (commercial aviation) and rear-fuselage mounted engines.

User currently offlineJetlagged From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 2546 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1311 times:



Quoting 411A (Reply 3):
The deHavilland Comet and SUD Caravelle designs, although looking very similar at the pointy end, were entirely different, from a systems perspective.

The Caravelle and Comet noses weren't just very similar, Sud Aviation re-used the DH design for the early Caravelle marks. What went inside the structure was clearly entirely different.



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User currently offlineVC10 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1408 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1296 times:



Quoting 411A (Reply 3):
The Caravelle design was very advanced for its time, fully hydraulic powered flight controls, and many redundant systems.

The Comet also had fully hydraulic powered flying controls

littlevc10


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