Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21460 posts, RR: 24 Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1596 times:
Quoting Dennys (Thread starter): I also remember the PA 707 Flying NYC TYO NYC N.stp before the 747SP did it .
To the best of my memory, Pan Am never used the 707 on regularly-scheduled nonstop service JFK-Tokyo. They may have ferried an occasional empty aircraft nonstop but even that would have been a stretch against usual headwinds on that route.
The 707 would have had the same problems on JFK-THR.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21460 posts, RR: 24 Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1479 times:
Quoting Dennys (Reply 2): Sorry but on Sept 1st 1969 PA launched the NYC TYO service NSTP .
PA launched JFK-HND service but it stopped at FAI. In early 1969 the U.S. government awarded several new transpacific routes to a number of carriers. PA received the rights to operate New York - Tokyo via FAI, competing with NW which had been operating via ANC for quite a few years.
That was also when TWA was granted transpacific rights to TPE/HKG/BKK via HNL and GUM whicih permitted them to start their brief around the world service. After losing a lot of money on those routes TWA made a deal to trade their Pacific routes to Pan Am in the mid-70s in exchange for some of Pan Am's Europe routes. TWA's major problem was their routing via HNLwhich is much further and the lack of traffic rights to Japan which was by far the largest Asian market.
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