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Q. About NYC - THR Iran Air 1978s Route;  
User currently offlineDennys From France, joined May 2001, 901 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2239 times:

Hello.
I rememeber the IR 747SP could fly NYC - THR N.Stop .

I am wondering whether a 707-300B could have done it , refering to the aircraft timing range of more than 14 hours .

I also remember the PA 707 Flying NYC TYO NYC N.stp before the 747SP did it .

Would someone have an idea ?

Kind Regards

dennys

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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26021 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2191 times:



Quoting Dennys (Thread starter):
I also remember the PA 707 Flying NYC TYO NYC N.stp before the 747SP did it .

To the best of my memory, Pan Am never used the 707 on regularly-scheduled nonstop service JFK-Tokyo. They may have ferried an occasional empty aircraft nonstop but even that would have been a stretch against usual headwinds on that route.

The 707 would have had the same problems on JFK-THR.


User currently offlineDennys From France, joined May 2001, 901 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2185 times:

Sorry but on Sept 1st 1969 PA launched the NYC TYO service NSTP .
regards
dennys


User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6848 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2116 times:

Back in 2007, it was indicated that the NYC-TYO tech stopped in Fairbanks

PAN Am B707 Operation (by VC10 Feb 14 2007 in Civil Aviation)


Reply #16

Quoting Dennys (Reply 15):
just a question concernining the JFK TYO flight ops .

I read that on Sept, 1st 1969 , PA openned a NON STOP 707 FLIGHT JFK - TYO .

Can someone confirm , this flight was really Non Stop ?


The flight operated with a technical stop in Fairbanks.

Nonstops to Tokyo didn't begin until Pan Am's 747 SPs arrived in 1976.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26021 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2074 times:



Quoting Dennys (Reply 2):
Sorry but on Sept 1st 1969 PA launched the NYC TYO service NSTP .

PA launched JFK-HND service but it stopped at FAI. In early 1969 the U.S. government awarded several new transpacific routes to a number of carriers. PA received the rights to operate New York - Tokyo via FAI, competing with NW which had been operating via ANC for quite a few years.

That was also when TWA was granted transpacific rights to TPE/HKG/BKK via HNL and GUM whicih permitted them to start their brief around the world service. After losing a lot of money on those routes TWA made a deal to trade their Pacific routes to Pan Am in the mid-70s in exchange for some of Pan Am's Europe routes. TWA's major problem was their routing via HNLwhich is much further and the lack of traffic rights to Japan which was by far the largest Asian market.


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