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Standing TRTs- Do Civilian Airlines Practice It?  
User currently offlineC5LOAD From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 917 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2023 times:

In the C-5, we practice standing trt takeoffs when we are heavyweight, but have never seen or heard of airlines doing them. Do they?


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User currently offlinejhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6204 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

I haven't seen a civilian airliner doing them exactly like in Fred; I'm pretty sure the controllers at JFK would be a little ticked by someone spending an extra 25 sec on the runway with engines at TRT. Although on really short runways like LGA, I've seen various implementations of the 'standing' technique in civilian airplanes (although I don't think the power is all the way up at brake release). When I was flying Part 121, we only had a "reduced" or "Max" thrust takeoff options, with flaps at either 10 or 20. They were both performed in the same way--you'd hold the brakes while running the EPRs up to about 1.1 and then release the brakes as you push the thrust levers up.


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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1992 times:

Anyone using Burbank Runway 33 on a cloudy day, when you can't see the mountans. They know the mountans are there and want as much speed and allttude as soon as they can get it. I've seem them make left hand turns as soon as the wheels clear the runway.

User currently offlinelowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1945 times:

The only time we do a static run up is when there is a potential for fan icing. Otherwise we prefer to either keep rolling around the corner or release the brakes and then stand the power up.


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User currently offlineAAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3474 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1921 times:

Quoting C5LOAD (Thread starter):
In the C-5, we practice standing trt takeoffs when we are heavyweight, but have never seen or heard of airlines doing them. Do they?

Not very often. KSNA is the only place I do one regularly.



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User currently offlineavioniker From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 1109 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1612 times:

Let's not forget the fuel waste as well as the potential for airflow disruption when you're not moving and there's a bit of a crosswind.


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