stevenjehly From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (3 years 9 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4223 times:
Something I have been wondering about for some days now. Do any Russian built aircraft (Antonov, Ilyushin, MIG, Sukhoi, Tupolev, Yakovlev, etc..........) use foreign made engines (GE, Rolls-Royce, SNECMA, P&W, etc........)?
The An-38 itself came from the An-28, which was then licensed produced by PZL as the M-28 Skytruck... which in itself was powered by PWC PT6 turboprops... the M28 forms 3/4 of the An28/M28 population...
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13602 posts, RR: 63 Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 20 hours ago) and read 3698 times:
The Tu-204 can be ordered with the following engines: Russian Perm engines, RR RB 211 and PW 2040 (though AFAIK nobody ever ordered the last option ).
There exists a version of the IL-76 with Snecma engines.
stevenjehly From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 20 hours ago) and read 3681 times:
Thanks all for your responses to my inquiry. Lots of knowledge out there! I would like to take this discussion a bit further back in history. During the Soviet era (pre-1990) I don't imagine that the Soviets used any foreign made engines. There was little technology exchanged as competition between the west and the communist countries was fierce. Although there was plenty of industrial (aeronautical) spying. The Soviets wanted to show the world they could do it all themselves. This is not a political statement but a simple observation. It is interesting to learn from this discussion that the Russians are using western engines but no one has mentioned that the reverse is happening. To my knowledge, it isn't.
Fabo From Slovakia, joined Aug 2005, 1156 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 18 hours ago) and read 3603 times:
Why would anyone? Russian engines are somewhat more fuel thirsty, and support outside the CIS is nonexistent. That basically means wherever you end up in intl, you are stranded until your own folks can come in and to the work.
Of any planes flying in the west using soviet engines, I can only say the very few oddball soviet jets in the west, like D-BOBD YK40 of General Air in West Germany.
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prebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6128 posts, RR: 55 Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 14 hours ago) and read 3527 times:
Quoting stevenjehly (Thread starter): Do any Russian built aircraft (Antonov, Ilyushin, MIG, Sukhoi, Tupolev, Yakovlev, etc..........) use foreign made engines (GE, Rolls-Royce, SNECMA, P&W, etc........)?
MiG-15 - Rolls Royce Nene. Roughly 18,000 built.
(The Russians, however, renamed it "Klimov RD-45". And RR is still waiting for their £207 million license fee).
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MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13602 posts, RR: 63 Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3099 times:
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 13): Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 7):
The Tu-204 can be ordered with the following engines: Russian Perm engines, RR RB 211 and PW 2040
Thats the Russians duplicating the B757
Not really. The Russians just aimed for the foreign market and hoped to get some custoimers from abroad, who would prefer a choice of different engine types.
I´m typerated on the 757 and some years ago I had the opportunity to have a close look at a Tu-204 (actually I was running an outatation for a large American cargo airline in Italy and a rival airline had a Tu-204 parked every day beside the 757 I was taking care of. I soon knew the Russian techs and they showed me the aircraft in detail).
The Tu-204 is technically more advanced than the 757, it has full fly-by-wire and a full glass cockpit (as an option you can have it from Honeywell). The flight engineer station is optional and was only included to fullfill some obscure Russian certification requirement (a bit like Ansett´s early 767s, which had F/E stations uinstalled due to a union requirement). It is somewhere between the 757 and the A320.
BTW, Mel, Lately I have been working as a flying spanner on our sister airline´s freighters. They apparently plan to fly to BOM in the next few months (as soon as the next two aircraft arrive). Maybe I´ll turn up in BOM some day. We might meet there.