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Any Foreign Engines On Russian Aircraft?  
User currently offlinestevenjehly From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4745 times:

Something I have been wondering about for some days now. Do any Russian built aircraft (Antonov, Ilyushin, MIG, Sukhoi, Tupolev, Yakovlev, etc..........) use foreign made engines (GE, Rolls-Royce, SNECMA, P&W, etc........)?

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User currently offlineboeingfever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4713 times:

I know Tupolev, uses RR power.


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User currently offlinevv701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7696 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4635 times:

A picture is worth 1,000 words. Note the badges on the engines:

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User currently offlineDelta763 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 316 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4588 times:

I think there was a version of the Il-96 meant to use 757 engines from PW, but I don't know how many, or if any were built.

User currently offlineFabo From Slovakia, joined Aug 2005, 1219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4315 times:

There were some. I think they are back with PS-90 now.

I wonder if Tu-204 with RR engines is such a rocket as 757 is.



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User currently offlinemandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6957 posts, RR: 76
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4236 times:

Quoting Delta763 (Reply 3):
I think there was a version of the Il-96 meant to use 757 engines from PW, but I don't know how many, or if any were built.

it was the Il-96M, RA-96000, seen here fitted with the PW2030s...

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Then, back to the PS-90 by 2001:

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The Il-114 has a PW powered version, the 114-100...

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Not sure if this example is currently with PW engines...

The An-38 has Garrett engines... as it's sole engine choice...

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Pity this one didn't sell well.

The An-38 itself came from the An-28, which was then licensed produced by PZL as the M-28 Skytruck... which in itself was powered by PWC PT6 turboprops... the M28 forms 3/4 of the An28/M28 population...

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There's probably some more of these I'm missing...

Quoting Fabo (Reply 4):
I wonder if Tu-204 with RR engines is such a rocket as 757 is.

That and the operating numbers is what I want to know!!!!!

Mandala499



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User currently offlineRJ111 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4220 times:

The RB211 is/was available on another Russian jet i believe. It was a twin engined freighter but i can't remember what it was or whether it came to light.

User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14131 posts, RR: 62
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4220 times:

The Tu-204 can be ordered with the following engines: Russian Perm engines, RR RB 211 and PW 2040 (though AFAIK nobody ever ordered the last option ).
There exists a version of the IL-76 with Snecma engines.

Jan


User currently offlinestevenjehly From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4203 times:

Thanks all for your responses to my inquiry. Lots of knowledge out there! I would like to take this discussion a bit further back in history. During the Soviet era (pre-1990) I don't imagine that the Soviets used any foreign made engines. There was little technology exchanged as competition between the west and the communist countries was fierce. Although there was plenty of industrial (aeronautical) spying. The Soviets wanted to show the world they could do it all themselves. This is not a political statement but a simple observation. It is interesting to learn from this discussion that the Russians are using western engines but no one has mentioned that the reverse is happening. To my knowledge, it isn't.

User currently offlineFabo From Slovakia, joined Aug 2005, 1219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4125 times:

Why would anyone? Russian engines are somewhat more fuel thirsty, and support outside the CIS is nonexistent. That basically means wherever you end up in intl, you are stranded until your own folks can come in and to the work.

Of any planes flying in the west using soviet engines, I can only say the very few oddball soviet jets in the west, like D-BOBD YK40 of General Air in West Germany.



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User currently onlineprebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6517 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4049 times:

Quoting stevenjehly (Thread starter):
Do any Russian built aircraft (Antonov, Ilyushin, MIG, Sukhoi, Tupolev, Yakovlev, etc..........) use foreign made engines (GE, Rolls-Royce, SNECMA, P&W, etc........)?

MiG-15 - Rolls Royce Nene. Roughly 18,000 built.

(The Russians, however, renamed it "Klimov RD-45". And RR is still waiting for their £207 million license fee).



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User currently offlineSepulTALLICA From Niger, joined Sep 2009, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3930 times:

Not to derail the thread, but i remember seeing something about Boeing doing tests on the old Tu-144. What was that all about?


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User currently onlineboeingfixer From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 534 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3809 times:

Quoting SepulTALLICA (Reply 11):
Not to derail the thread, but i remember seeing something about Boeing doing tests on the old Tu-144. What was that all about?

Google is your friend!

http://oea.larc.nasa.gov/PAIS/TU-144.html

It was a joint NASA/Boeing/Tupolev project for high speed research.

Cheers,

John



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3680 times:

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 7):
The Tu-204 can be ordered with the following engines: Russian Perm engines, RR RB 211 and PW 2040

Thats the Russians duplicating the B757  
regds
MEL.



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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14131 posts, RR: 62
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3621 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 13):
Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 7):
The Tu-204 can be ordered with the following engines: Russian Perm engines, RR RB 211 and PW 2040

Thats the Russians duplicating the B757
regds
MEL.

Not really. The Russians just aimed for the foreign market and hoped to get some custoimers from abroad, who would prefer a choice of different engine types.
I´m typerated on the 757 and some years ago I had the opportunity to have a close look at a Tu-204 (actually I was running an outatation for a large American cargo airline in Italy and a rival airline had a Tu-204 parked every day beside the 757 I was taking care of. I soon knew the Russian techs and they showed me the aircraft in detail).
The Tu-204 is technically more advanced than the 757, it has full fly-by-wire and a full glass cockpit (as an option you can have it from Honeywell). The flight engineer station is optional and was only included to fullfill some obscure Russian certification requirement (a bit like Ansett´s early 767s, which had F/E stations uinstalled due to a union requirement). It is somewhere between the 757 and the A320.

BTW, Mel, Lately I have been working as a flying spanner on our sister airline´s freighters. They apparently plan to fly to BOM in the next few months (as soon as the next two aircraft arrive). Maybe I´ll turn up in BOM some day. We might meet there.

Jan


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3311 times:

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 14):
Maybe I´ll turn up in BOM some day. We might meet there.

Def Jan......Will Meet up.

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 14):
The Tu-204 is technically more advanced than the 757, it has full fly-by-wire and a full glass cockpit

Very Educational.

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 14):
(a bit like Ansett´s early 767s, which had F/E stations uinstalled due to a union requirement

Whats the story behind this move?

regds
MEL.



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