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What Airlines Believe In Fast Taxi?  
User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3493 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4638 times:

I just put up a post about JetBlue, but now I want to know, what airline believe in hauling but to the runway? I know Southwest is one of those airlines. Also, with what type of a/c, would they try this with? I know huge jetliners like A380s, 747, 777 and A340s taxi at pretty slow speeds.

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User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1301 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4573 times:

Think you'll find the FOM of virtually all airlines stipulating a maximum straight-line taxi speed in the region of 20-30 knots, and 10 knots for going round corners. For contaminated taxiways, the maximum speed will be considerably reduced. Those figures are derived from the recommended practices/procedures as issued by the manufacturer, the cavaet being that if you state something different in your company FOM, the manufacturer may well impose warranty penalties.

That's not to say that sometimes a crew will elect to go a tad faster than that, but it almost certainly won't be a company sanctioned procedure, and if you regularly exceed company recommended speedlimits you may well find yourself invited to a chat with the CP sans coffee and biccies - the QAR downloads captures everything these days.

Over the eastern side of the pond, Ryanair used to have a reputation for taxiing at rather ambitous speeds, but they also seem to have come to their senses and slowed things down.



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User currently offlineHiJazzey From Saudi Arabia, joined Sep 2005, 864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4537 times:

I find SV drivers like to rocket their planes down the taxiways, although probably after the MD90 accident last year they're now more conservative.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4050 times:

No company SOP will suggest Fast taxi beyond 20-30kts speed,depending on the type & much less around bends.
However there is always the unconcerned person that exceeds the limits to get to a point faster or make up for lost time,but at the expense of heated tires & reducing its life,more frequent tire replacements than normal.

regds
MEL.



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User currently offlinepilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3148 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3659 times:

Both airlines I've worked at have stated safe speeds for taxi to be at the discretion of the Captain. Having said that, there's no reason to go more than about 20kts. The 30 seconds it might save you will heat the brakes considerably more and also increase the chances of something bad happening.


DMI
User currently offlinewn700driver From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3644 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 1):
That's not to say that sometimes a crew will elect to go a tad faster than that, but it almost certainly won't be a company sanctioned procedure, and if you regularly exceed company recommended speedlimits you may well find yourself invited to a chat with the CP sans coffee and biccies - the QAR downloads captures everything these days.

Hey now. Not a pilot, but I've had a few airline jobs. I do distinctly recall one dressing down I received wherein I was offered coffee and doughnuts before during, and after the fact!  
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 3):
,but at the expense of heated tires & reducing its life,more frequent tire replacements than normal.

Yeah, this is a real concern. Most AC tires aren't even meant to be taxied more than a dozen or so miles at a time, at any speed. I imagine that number gets retarded some with greater speeds.

But alas, many pilots don't really worry about the effects of more frequent changes etc.


User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3502 times:

Everytime I've flown F9 or seen an F9 plane taxi it seems like they really like to book it..

-A



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User currently offline413X3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1983 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3352 times:

Southwest floors it, probably because of their quick turnaround times

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2668 times:

Quoting wn700driver (Reply 5):
But alas, many pilots don't really worry about the effects of more frequent changes etc.

Thats where company trainings matter.If the crew is given an SOP with the reasons behind the action & its savings achieved,One will see a difference in following that SOP.

regds
MEL.



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User currently offlinewn700driver From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2438 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 8):
Thats where company trainings matter.If the crew is given an SOP with the reasons behind the action & its savings achieved,One will see a difference in following that SOP.

Sometimes yes, sometimes no. I worked at an airline where F/O rates were concurrent with 4th year FAs. You take a pretty obviously disgusting situation like that, and you wind up with a lot of crew who just plain didn't give a rip about anything that didn't directly affect the safety of their next flight. I ended up working a lot of planes that were pretty obviously written up for things that were easily avoidable. One of the most common? "Soft" brakes. Wonder how that happens when there's more than .15" of wear pin showing...


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2380 times:

Quoting wn700driver (Reply 9):

An Airline having such thinking employees will not always succeed in profits.
Its amazing how cooperative Employees can save millions for the company.
regds
MEL.



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User currently offlinewn700driver From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2264 times:

Lol, Hawk. I don't recall that airline being profitable at any time during my stay there.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2119 times:

Quoting wn700driver (Reply 11):
Lol, Hawk. I don't recall that airline being profitable at any time during my stay there.

Exactly the point  
regds
MEL.



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