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Does JetBlue Taxi Faster Than Other Airlines?  
User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3568 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6147 times:

Well a lot of us know, Southwest like to haul but on taxi to the runway. Do JetBlue haul but to the runway also?

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User currently offlinesandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1094 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6136 times:
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Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):
Well a lot of us know, Southwest like to haul but on taxi to the runway. Do JetBlue haul but to the runway also?

What do you mean? Do you mean Southwest likes to 'Haul But' and if so, what does that mean?

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User currently offlineBladeLWS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6079 times:

I think he means, do they break the speed limit.

User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3568 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6021 times:

From what reed, WN do not play. The pilots take those 737s to the runway quick, and I know a lot of times, they spool those 737s up before they fully turn on to the runway.

User currently offlineJetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2774 posts, RR: 33
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5889 times:

I think he means butt, not but. I.E. hauling ass (going fast).


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User currently offlinecatdaddy63 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5782 times:
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The old joke here was that WN pilots taxi at Vr -5. And rolling takeoffs are not uncommon at lower traffic airports.

User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3072 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5746 times:

Never seen anybody taxi as fast as WN but this one ranks right up there,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-C5leIxSos



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11636 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5729 times:

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 3):
The pilots take those 737s to the runway quick, and I know a lot of times, they spool those 737s up before they fully turn on to the runway.

Insert any airline in the world into that sentance. They all do it.

(That probably means JetBlue does it)


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User currently offlineArcrftLvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 826 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5626 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 6):
Never seen anybody taxi as fast as WN but this one ranks right up there,

Wow. At first glance, this looks like a takeoff roll. Notice the spoilers are activated...


User currently offlineNASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5615 times:

Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):
Do JetBlue haul but to the runway also?

I'd venture to say that it has a lot to do with the airports they fly out of, as well as whatever clearance was given. I've worked many flights where we seem to "haul @$$" to the runway, and similarly as many flights where we crawl. Most of the time, the fast taxis are in out-stations (particularly less-busy outstations) and the slow taxi can be found in JFK (most notably - or notoriously, if you will).

Airlines in general would love to be ahead of schedule, but other circumstances can sometimes prevail.



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User currently offlinedl767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5604 times:

Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):

i think you mean "butt" and no I don't think they do, at least from what i've watched they seem to go at a "normal" pace. WN on the other hand does go a little faster which we all know but I haven't noticed Jet Blue picking up the pace


User currently offlineatcsundevil From Germany, joined Mar 2010, 1181 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5004 times:

From one of my B6 experiences, abso-freakin-lutely, man. I think we were originally going to depart off of 13R but the winds changed so we taxied all the way out to 22L making a massive circle of the airport. He must have been pushing 45+ mph in an E190. I think this was a bit of an extreme case though!

I've always had pretty quick taxis with B6, but generally speaking, WN strives to set some world land-speed records on a regular basis!



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User currently offlinedbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 885 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4962 times:

Quoting BladeLWS (Reply 2):
I think he means, do they break the speed limit.

Is this a joke? There is no taxi-way speed limit. As long as the pilots are operating the aircraft in a safe manner..and I've never felt unsafe on a Southwest flight.


User currently offlineatcsundevil From Germany, joined Mar 2010, 1181 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4947 times:

Quoting dbo861 (Reply 12):
There is no taxi-way speed limit.

But airport vehicles do! They'll hand out tickets for that crap, too!! But it's not like many airport vehicles go much faster than 12mph anyway   



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User currently offlineswiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4901 times:

Quoting catdaddy63 (Reply 5):
And rolling takeoffs are not uncommon at lower traffic airports.

Rolling takeoffs are not uncommon at Heathrow... What's your point?


User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4489 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4799 times:

Quoting ArcrftLvr (Reply 8):
Notice the spoilers are activated...

This is automatic on the ERJ...I think it happens around 25kts IAS and above, which is taxiing at a decent clip.



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User currently offlinejayeshrulz From India, joined Apr 2007, 1027 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4785 times:

i was recently in a EY flight, and the A320 was taxing about 20-24 knots in AUH.
it was a empty flight and the taxiways were free too, so the pilots were taxiing quite fast.

Its obvious that the opposite happened in BOM airport...  



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User currently offlineflyby519 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1134 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4426 times:

According to the FAA, the appropriate taxi speed is defined as a "brisk walk" and I think it is safe to say every airliner goes faster than that (well maybe not at AA  ). The WN planes seem to have a much faster brisk walk than everyone else IMHO. Im sure someone at WN can chime in, but I believe the pilots get compensated extra for completing the flight under block time. Meaning if the flight is scheduled for 2hrs and they do it in 1:59 they get some sort of bonus.


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User currently offlinealitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4747 posts, RR: 45
Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4336 times:

Here's one I love, Alitalia MD-82 at Linate. Great taxi and a hard rolling take-off:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edvlwseWWmg



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15723 posts, RR: 26
Reply 19, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4285 times:

Quoting flyby519 (Reply 17):
According to the FAA, the appropriate taxi speed is defined as a "brisk walk"

   Maybe for Usain Bolt.

Quoting atcsundevil (Reply 13):
But it's not like many airport vehicles go much faster than 12mph anyway

I don't know about that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vv9jEPR14g



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21549 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3868 times:

Quoting flyby519 (Reply 17):
I believe the pilots get compensated extra for completing the flight under block time. Meaning if the flight is scheduled for 2hrs and they do it in 1:59 they get some sort of bonus.

Actually, they get paid block times and not flight times. So if the flight is scheduled for 2 hours and they fly it in 2:15, they still get paid for two hours. Thus, they have an incentive to go fast to make sure they're not doing work for free. Other airlines pay by flight time, so the pilots don't have incentive to speed up, and arguably have an incentive to slow down.

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User currently offlinemmedford From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 561 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (4 years 3 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3338 times:

Quoting atcsundevil (Reply 13):
But airport vehicles do! They'll hand out tickets for that crap, too!! But it's not like many airport vehicles go much faster than 12mph anyway

Speak for yourself... my airport vehicle can go MUCH faster than 12mph...

But in regards to the topic, yes at JFK; I have seen several B6 aircraft treating the taxiways as a nascar race, with T5 being pitroad...

[Edited 2010-05-20 06:36:43]


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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2881 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (4 years 3 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3132 times:

I have been on A LOT of B6 flights so far this year, and I can't say that it is the norm to "haul butt" to the runway or "spool up" while turning onto the runway. I will admit there have been a few flights where ATC held us at the gate due to the flight volume, so when they gave us the okay to push back the taxi-out was a little on the quick side, but nothing terribly fast or alarming. As far as the "spooling up", I have never experienced that on B6. Now, jamming on the brakes to get off the runway quickly, that's a different story LOL.


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User currently offlinemhockey31091 From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2821 times:
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Quoting Mir (Reply 20):
Quoting flyby519 (Reply 17):
I believe the pilots get compensated extra for completing the flight under block time. Meaning if the flight is scheduled for 2hrs and they do it in 1:59 they get some sort of bonus.

Actually, they get paid block times and not flight times. So if the flight is scheduled for 2 hours and they fly it in 2:15, they still get paid for two hours. Thus, they have an incentive to go fast to make sure they're not doing work for free. Other airlines pay by flight time, so the pilots don't have incentive to speed up, and arguably have an incentive to slow down.

-Mir

I'm pretty sure the WN only gets paid from wheels up to wheels down don't they?


User currently offlineokie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2999 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2781 times:

Quoting mhockey31091 (Reply 23):
I'm pretty sure the WN only gets paid from wheels up to wheels down don't they?



Not sure these days but they used to get paid "trip time" DAL-HOU was the basis, 1 trip x what ever your rate was.
OKC-PHX 1.7 trip x what ever your rate was. You get paid the same trip time for a trip if you sit on a gate hold for hours or have a strong tail wind and get to the destination early. It did not really make any difference if you were held up for delays or not you got paid for the trip. The only difference would be your last trip of the day which if you arrived a few minutes early then you got to go home a few minutes early. I know that was the way they used to do pay but I am not sure how they do it now, as that would allow seniors to bid away from routes that had notorious delays and force the juniors to work a lot hours for free.

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