Sponsor Message:
Aviation Technical / Operations Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
The Panel On The Side Of This 767-What Is It?  
User currently offlinec5load From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 917 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5683 times:

There is a square panel about halfway between the DL logo and the American flag, on the upper side of the fuselage, just behind the window exits. Is this some sort of antenna?


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © V. Javier del Olmo Gomez




"But this airplane has 4 engines, it's an entirely different kind of flying! Altogether"
14 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3518 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5682 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Sat antenna. Mounted on the side to provide a fair view of the sky in turns.


Legal considerations provided by: Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe
User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5546 times:

Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 1):
Sat antenna. Mounted on the side to provide a fair view of the sky in turns.

Is there a matching one on the other side? Seems an interesting sat antenna implementation compared to the steerable ones in the blister fairings on top.

Tom.


User currently offlinec5load From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 917 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5531 times:

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 2):
Is there a matching one on the other side?

You mean there is something even Tom doesn't know? Just kidding. But it does seem weird that it would be mounted on the side and not the top.

Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 1):
Mounted on the side to provide a fair view of the sky in turns.

It would only provide a view during left turns. Right turns it would be pointed toward the ground.



"But this airplane has 4 engines, it's an entirely different kind of flying! Altogether"
User currently offlinenomadd22 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1853 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5531 times:

It would be kind of strange. The little turntable type S-band antennas work at 30 degree banks, and a single one of those on top has much better coverage and gain than two flat panels. Unless they're phased array panels, which seems unlikely on a civilian plane.


Andy Goetsch
User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3518 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5501 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Quoting c5load (Reply 3):
It would only provide a view during left turns. Right turns it would be pointed toward the ground.

Hmm... well I guess that would explain the second antenna on the left side....


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Aurélien TRANCHET




Legal considerations provided by: Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe
User currently offlineHAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2560 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5017 times:

Same aircraft as the original post, different side:


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Helmut Bierbaum



Yep, it's got the sat antenna on that side too! 

HAL



One smooth landing is skill. Two in a row is luck. Three in a row and someone is lying.
User currently onlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4000 posts, RR: 34
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4892 times:

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 2):
Is there a matching one on the other side? Seems an interesting sat antenna implementation compared to the steerable ones in the blister fairings on top.

Just to add its pretty common nowadays to have the pair of flat panel sat antennae.

My question is, why do some airlines have big humps instead?
Is this for more bandwidth?, for live TV?
Or is it just old stuff? Must cost a lot in fuel consumption to carry a big hump around.


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17025 posts, RR: 67
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4873 times:

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 7):
My question is, why do some airlines have big humps instead?
Is this for more bandwidth?, for live TV?
Or is it just old stuff? Must cost a lot in fuel consumption to carry a big hump around.

I heard mentioned in some ancient thread (so the following is either true or complete bullcrap) that the bump wasn't that draggy. It did some lifting too or something.



"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlinebikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2102 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4796 times:

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 7):
My question is, why do some airlines have big humps instead?



From what I remember, the humps usually involves a rotating "dish" antenna. The flats are phase array.

Quoting nomadd22 (Reply 4):
which seems unlikely on a civilian plane.



(edited for better example)
I think phase array for Satcom is in civilian use. BoeingConnexion (now defunct) antena were to be phased array.


bikerthai

[Edited 2010-06-07 07:32:47]


Intelligent seeks knowledge. Enlightened seeks wisdom.
User currently offlineBigSaabowski From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4403 times:

I always thought that was the HF antenna. 767ERs at Delta don't have satellite TV, and only a few of their ERs have SatCom.

[Edited 2010-06-09 07:03:47]

User currently offlineMadDogJT8D From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 397 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4376 times:

I thought the entire DL 763ER fleet was getting the Satcom mod, is that not correct?

User currently offlineDALMD88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2543 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4355 times:

Quoting MadDogJT8D (Reply 11):
I thought the entire DL 763ER fleet was getting the Satcom mod, is that not correct?

Correct, I believe it is becoming the norm for TATL comm. I think it may be required for the most desirable tracks due to reduced seperation rules.


User currently onlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4000 posts, RR: 34
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4287 times:

Quoting BigSaabowski (Reply 10):
I always thought that was the HF antenna.

The HF antenna is half way up the leading edge of the fin. You can just make it out on the above pictures.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4118 times:

Any Alternative closer view of this Antenna.
regds
MEL.



Think of the brighter side!
Top Of Page
Forum Index

Reply To This Topic The Panel On The Side Of This 767-What Is It?
Username:
No username? Sign up now!
Password: 


Forgot Password? Be reminded.
Remember me on this computer (uses cookies)
  • Tech/Ops related posts only!
  • Not Tech/Ops related? Use the other forums
  • No adverts of any kind. This includes web pages.
  • No hostile language or criticizing of others.
  • Do not post copyright protected material.
  • Use relevant and describing topics.
  • Check if your post already been discussed.
  • Check your spelling!
  • DETAILED RULES
Add Images Add SmiliesPosting Help

Please check your spelling (press "Check Spelling" above)


Similar topics:More similar topics...
Whats On The Tail Cone Of This L1011 posted Mon Nov 5 2007 18:48:09 by ORDPIA
The Other Side Of The License posted Fri Oct 17 2003 09:27:43 by Fly727
What Is The Angle Of This Plane @ Takeoff posted Thu Dec 13 2007 17:18:27 by SuseJ772
What Is This Panel On The A-380? posted Thu Jul 5 2007 00:37:43 by SLCPilot
What Is This In The Panel? posted Thu Jun 21 2007 00:38:58 by KLM685
What Is This Device Above The A/P Control Panel posted Thu Jul 14 2005 19:09:07 by Xms3200
C17A - What Is The Purpose Of This Window? posted Tue Jul 5 2005 05:29:30 by ZKEYE
What Is This In The Back Of The A380? posted Thu Jun 16 2005 22:40:13 by Alphafloor
What Is This Smoke Coming Out Of The Engine? posted Wed Mar 10 2004 03:09:26 by BA
What Is This On Top Of The MCP (Red Led Display) posted Wed Apr 16 2003 04:01:18 by Rohan737

Sponsor Message:
Printer friendly format