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Cabin Crew - Comparing Salaries  
User currently offlineBAfan From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 189 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6897 times:

I recently found a document on the CAA website that shows the average salaries for Cabin Crew at UK airlines. The document can be found at:

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airline...nnel_Cost_UK_and_Overseas_2009.pdf

I was just wondering how these salaries compare to other cabin crew salaries around the world?

I thought this might be an interesting topic to start considering all the problems BA is currently having with it's cabin crew at Heathrow.

People might be surprised to see that Easyjet is the second highest in the UK, I certainly was!

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User currently offlinekric777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 6697 times:
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Hmmm...the statistic that was cited was "average expenditure per head" which, to me, is not the same as 'salary'.

"Average expenditure per head" may or may not equate closely to one's salary, and may have much more to do with the carrier's overall cost structure. From an airline's perspective, the total expenditure per head would include expenses beyond salary such as pension benefits, overnight accomodations, etc. For example, here in the US, it includes health care costs, which are a HUGE expense, and would grossly warp the "average expenditure per head" figure for US carriers relative to carriers from countries with national health care in place. So of course, since the UK, for example, has the NHS in place, that (significant) cost is not borne by UK carriers.

NOTE -- I'm not making a political statement, pro- or con-, about publicly-funded healthcare in the US, just pointing out a fact. My point is that the number on a company's bottom-line for expenses per employee may have little to do with the salary those employees actually receive. If I received the figure that my employer cites as it's "average expenditure per head", I would be very, very well-paid.


User currently offlineflyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1878 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 6570 times:

For QX:

Year 4: 25.00/hr 1.75 per diem. last year worked out to about 33K flying 3-5 days a week on average.

We do get a dollar for dollar match up to 10% on the 401K, and company paid medical which is nice.


User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3500 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6477 times:

Quoting flyboy80 (Reply 2):
Year 4: 25.00/hr 1.75 per diem.

When does the per diem begin and end for you work day(s)?



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User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1479 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6399 times:

WN Payscale:


Wage Rate June 1, 2007 June 1, 2008 June 1, 2009 June 1, 2010
1st 6 Months $20.06 $20.66 $21.28 $21.92
2nd 6 Months $20.31 $20.92 $21.55 $22.20
Step 1 $22.26 $22.93 $23.62 $24.33
Step 2 $23.87 $24.59 $25.33 $26.09
Step 3 $25.83 $26.60 $27.40 $28.22
**SKIP TO**
Step 13 $50.50 $52.02 $53.58 $55.19

Our per diem is $2.15/hr for every hour away from home (check-in to return)
Additional $2.00 premium for flying (A) "Senior" position.
Premium pay of $5/hr above pay-rate anything over 102hrs picked up from company.
Time and HALF for flying un-crewed trips on certain days off.



ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
User currently offlineatct From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2298 posts, RR: 38
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6392 times:

I made $17 a flight hour working at RegionsAir (Corporate Airlines) flying on a Saab 340. Equates to roughly 20-22,000 a year. I miss the job, but not the pay.

Clint



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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3500 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6330 times:

Quoting WNCrew (Reply 4):
Our per diem is $2.15/hr for every hour away from home (check-in to return)

Is the per diem paid while actually flying too?



"I want to know the voice of God the rest is just details" --A. Einstein
User currently offlineiairallie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 6296 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 6):
Is the per diem paid while actually flying too?



Yes


User currently offlinewn700driver From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6206 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 6):
Is the per diem paid while actually flying too?

Depends on the Airline. Per Diem is not taxable (though frankly that foolishness needs to end, but that's another story), so it will never be attatched to a pay stub. Typically, it will be disbursed as a check before the trip actually occurs, and for the amount expected based on trip days, and whether it is domestic, international, or any other condition. I think hardly anyone pays after the fact (though who knows what charter companies do.. perhaps someone else can shed light there...)


User currently offlineiairallie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6204 times:

Quoting wn700driver (Reply 8):
so it will never be attatched to a pay stub. Typically, it will be disbursed as a check before the trip actually occurs, and for the amount expected based on trip days, and whether it is domestic, international, or any other condition. I think hardly anyone pays after the fact (though who knows what charter companies do.. perhaps someone else can shed light there...)

????
Um not so. I've worked for 5 US carriers (one charter, 4 reg pax commercial carriers) and not one of them did what you describe here. All of them paid the perdiem with my regular paycheck AFTER the fact same as my flight hour pay. I know for a fact that most if not all the major carriers do likewise.


User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1479 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6197 times:

Quoting wn700driver (Reply 8):
Depends on the Airline. Per Diem is not taxable (though frankly that foolishness needs to end, but that's another story), so it will never be attatched to a pay stub. Typically, it will be disbursed as a check before the trip actually occurs, and for the amount expected based on trip days, and whether it is domestic, international, or any other condition. I think hardly anyone pays after the fact (though who knows what charter companies do.. perhaps someone else can shed light there...)

..if you fly for WN, do pilots not get paid the same as FA's? Our per diem comes in addition to our regular salary on our paycheck on the 20th of the month so it is attached to a pay-stub. Granted on our W2 is has it's own category, but we're certainly not paid our per diem beforehand or separately.



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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3500 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6128 times:

Quoting WNCrew (Reply 10):
the 20th of the month

Do you only get paid once a month or is that the period for the per diem disbursement? This maybe a silly question but do you get per diem while sleeping in the hotel? I only get $250-350 per day (depending on city) while traveling.



"I want to know the voice of God the rest is just details" --A. Einstein
User currently offlineatct From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2298 posts, RR: 38
Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6104 times:

At RegionsAir our per-diem came in our paycheck under the pre-tax items. (non-taxable income)

Clint



"The way to get started is to quit talking and begin doing." - Walt Disney
User currently offlineiairallie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6089 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 11):
This maybe a silly question but do you get per diem while sleeping in the hotel? I only get $250-350 per day (depending on city) while traveling.

Yes but if you do the math you have a much better deal unless you have to pay your hotels and transportation out of that money.

My airline pays $2.40 every hour I am away from home until I complete the trip and go off duty. Most American carriers do it the same way although $2.40/hr is at the higher end of the norm for per diem pay. I only know of one carrier who does it differently.


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