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Crew Positioning - Launching Long-haul Routes  
User currently offlinelax777lr From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 81 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 4 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3262 times:

In launching a new, daily LH or ULH route, how does an airline pre-position the return flight crew? Take the recent launch of DOH-GRU by QR. Does the GRU-EZE crew deadhead in on the inaugural flight, or do they fly in on other carriers in advance? Thanks in advance for your insight.

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User currently onlineflyfree727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 668 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3229 times:

AA positions them their on other carries when necessary. The ORD PEK service, the crew deadheaded to NRT then flew JL to PEK for the return flight PEK ORD.

IIRC, the DEL ORD first flight was 2 days after the first ORD DEL flight, so the crew was positioned already. Not 100% sure though its been a while.

AA ORD


User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3045 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2903 times:

Quoting flyfree727 (Reply 1):
IIRC, the DEL ORD first flight was 2 days after the first ORD DEL flight, so the crew was positioned already. Not 100% sure though its been a while.

Interesting. So the airplane sat in DEL for 2 days?


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7415 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2874 times:

Quoting lax777lr (Thread starter):
do they fly in on other carriers in advance? Thanks in advance for your insight.

When AF re-opened CDG-AUH last May third, the Crew on duty for the first return AUH-CDG was positioned the day before. They flew CDG-DXB on AF and were then transfered to Abu Dhabi by bus.

Big Major airlines usually use their own existing network to take their crew to the closest destination, and then are using partner services.


User currently offlinerp tpa From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2705 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 3):
Big Major airlines usually use their own existing network to take their crew to the closest destination, and then are using partner services

As another example, Air Canada started YYZ-CPH last week. The return crew likely flew the night prior to the inaugural flight to one of the *A hubs (FRA/MUC/LHR/ZRH), and then on LH/SK/LX to CPH.


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9671 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2679 times:

Quoting rp tpa (Reply 4):

As another example, Air Canada started YYZ-CPH last week. The return crew likely flew the night prior to the inaugural flight to one of the *A hubs (FRA/MUC/LHR/ZRH), and then on LH/SK/LX to CPH.

Actually when it comes to interline and business travel, it rarely matters if the airline is in an alliance or not. Usually company business travel tickets are ID50 on other airlines from what I know. The contracts between the airlines for interline travel are a lot different from what the public sees as far as alliances go. Would you expect that United's closest interline partner is jetBlue? It might not make sense to the regular passenger, but there are contracts negotiated that often have nothing to do with alliances. Certain airlines might be in an alliance, but will offer little to no interline benefits to fellow alliance airlines.



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