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User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4833 times:

So I apparently have been promoted from aircraft-purchasing-dude to chief pilot/operations manager/scheduling/dispatcher person of sorts for a new charter company. I won't fly but, hey, could be worse.

Anyways, we are about to receive the plane, a Citation Bravo and are in the process of building a hangar, so I was wondering what tools/accessories/must-have miscellaneous goodies would make my life easier in the hangar.

So far the obvious seem to be:

An aircraft tug of sorts
GPU cart
Mop
Broom
Pressure washer
Airband transceiver
Basic tools (we will have our own mechanic, so we got that covered AFAIK)

Any other ideas?

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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4829 times:

Wall planning chart  http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/8724

If available, a broadband internet connection (with a wireless access point   ) is also a very handy thing to have, if you can get it to your hangar...

I would have said "telephone" about 15 years ago, but nowadays, with cell phones...  

I would add to that, electricity (believe it or not, lots of T-hangars still lack this!). A 20-amp 120V circuit is really really nice to have (it lets your mechanic plug in some heavy duty electrical equipment). The 20 amp outlets are the ones that have the sideways blade (in addition to the two vertical blades).



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4811 times:
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My line days remind me that you'll need a floor crawler, rags, and plenty of degreaser. Probably a step ladder, as well.

I'd also start thinking about emergency supplies, like a first-aid kit, fire extinguisher, etc.

Other misc items like extension cords, chocks, maybe some extra pitot covers, and a few cases of engine oil.

If it were my hangar, I'd empty several cans of anti-spider/anti-insect chemicals around the perimeter of the hangar to prevent the little bastards from nesting in the aircraft or in any of the hangar supplies.



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User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4800 times:

I must add we will probably have the "fanciest" hangar in the field, with running water, insulation, cooling, electricity and definitely internet as there will be an office, MY office. So that will be taken care of.   Now if I could only convince them to get me a lovely young assistant I'd be golden 

[Edited 2010-07-19 14:23:48]

User currently offlineLarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4790 times:

A radio, most days would be prtty boring if there wasn't a radio at work.
For the GPU/tug get a Lektro, we have the smallest variant and it's very nice when towing the aircraft, the only problem we have with the short model is with the PC-12 when pushing. We absolutely no problems when towning Citation Bravo's.

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 2):
My line days remind me that you'll need a floor crawler, rags, and plenty of degreaser. Probably a step ladder, as well.

I'd also start thinking about emergency supplies, like a first-aid kit, fire extinguisher, etc.

Some of the most important parts.

A battery charger? I don't know how often you plan to fly?



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4789 times:

Oh yeah,

A must have item:

Coffee Maker!!! 

(preferably of the grind-and-brew variety...)  



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User currently offlineDALMD88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2602 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4758 times:

Aircraft jacks, tough to swing gear or change tires without. Also you will need to supply some tools. Usually calibrated tools are company provided and maintained. Torqure wrenches, mulitmeter, any pressure gauges. You will also need an oxygen servicing cart as well as a nitrogen servicing cart. Usually the company also provides any specialty tooling like wheel sockets and grease guns. Those things will allow you mechanic to do most everyday tasks.

User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4755 times:

Thanks to all for the ideas so far!

Quoting Larshjort (Reply 4):
We absolutely no problems when towning Citation Bravo's.

Interesting, I would've thought their smallest model would be too short to reach under the Bravo's nose.

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 5):

Coffee Maker!!!

(preferably of the grind-and-brew variety...

Now that's too fancy  
Quoting Larshjort (Reply 4):
A battery charger? I don't know how often you plan to fly?

Pretty often. Figuring over 400 hours a year.

[Edited 2010-07-19 15:40:45]

User currently offlinen901wa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4746 times:

I would like to add, a Pneumatic system with a compressor. I would put the compressor outside and plumb the hanger with hard lines. A Fire Locker and Chem Locker to store the stuff that might get you fined by osha and the Fire dept.   You might want a fire system. I would check what the requirements are at the Airport. A good place to check out is Granger . The have quite a few items that can help you out. The have a online site. A fuel sump cart, and a spill response cart.   Hope this can help  

User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4725 times:

Might I add this is in Mexico so we can fudge the OSHA stuff a bit  

User currently offlinekl671 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4702 times:

Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):
so I was wondering what tools/accessories/must-have miscellaneous goodies would make my life easier in the hangar.

Familiarise yourself with the airframe and engine maintaince manuals, tools catalogues, parts catalogues and consumables lists, if you have not done so yet. These documents will answer all your questions. Contact the airframe and engine manufacturers for their recommended line maintenace tools and spare parts lists.

Or you can ask this forum for advice. I would add a shovel and a rubbish bin to your list so you can dispose of whatever you collected with the broom.


User currently offlinerottenray From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4684 times:

Approximately where in Mexico?

If you are off the beaten path, you might consider a full kitchenette, and a shower.


User currently offlinekl671 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4657 times:

Quoting rottenray (Reply 11):
If you are off the beaten path, you might consider a full kitchenette, and a shower.
Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):
Any other ideas?

Hire Rottenray as your housekeeper . He is apparently more into real estate than operating an aircraft.

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 9):
Might I add this is in Mexico so we can fudge the OSHA stuff a bit

I am sure that OSHA, the FAA and your employers will never find out about your fudging. Good luck with that one.


User currently offlineLarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4648 times:

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 7):
nteresting, I would've thought their smallest model would be too short to reach under the Bravo's nose.

Were talking a 550B Bravo right? I can send some pictures in a week or two.

/Lars



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User currently offlineflybaurlax From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4634 times:

How about a rug? It'll tie the room together


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User currently offlineLarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4614 times:

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 7):
Interesting, I would've thought their smallest model would be too short to reach under the Bravo's nose.

Just checked, it's a AP8600 we have.
http://www.lektro.com/docs/8600.pdf



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User currently offlineGST From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 938 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4592 times:

A fridge!

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 2):
fire extinguisher

Several

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 5):

Beat me to it, working means caffeine.


User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4507 times:

Quoting rottenray (Reply 11):
Approximately where in Mexico?

29-05-48.000N / 111-02-56.000W  
Quoting rottenray (Reply 11):
If you are off the beaten path, you might consider a full kitchenette, and a shower.

There will be some sort of waiting area for clients/pax so carpet and leather recliners might be on order 
Quoting Larshjort (Reply 13):
Were talking a 550B Bravo right? I can send some pictures in a week or two.

Yup.

Quoting kl671 (Reply 12):
I am sure that OSHA, the FAA and your employers will never find out about your fudging. Good luck with that one.

 


User currently offlinelowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4497 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 5):
Coffee Maker!!!

This is a safety of flight issue.

Beyond what is already mentioned I would ad extention cords and a portable light. Lockable closets to store anything with any value in. A supply of commonly comsumed fluids and lubricants. A spare wheel and brake set.



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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14132 posts, RR: 62
Reply 19, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4481 times:

Quoting n901wa (Reply 8):
I would like to add, a Pneumatic system with a compressor. I would put the compressor outside and plumb the hanger with hard lines

A compressor is essential. Get a really one, 400 to 500 liters/ minute suction at 10 atmospheres minimum and a big storages tank. Smaller ones will give up when having to power e.g. a die grinder. Compressors this size usually require 3 phase power (AFAIK 220V threphase in your part of the world).
A wheelchange jack.
A proper and strong workbench with a strong vise. Electrical lighting to illuminate dark areas inside and below the aircraft for work (it sucks having to work with a flashlight jammed under the arm).
Stepladders in various sizes.
Proper lockers for the tools (they are not cheap and tend to grow legs).
A proper maintenance software for keeping track of checks etc, which also allows spare parts stores handling (batch numbers, expiry dates etc.).
A PC with a printer for the mechanic, for reading the manuals (which I assume, will come on CD or DVD for your aircraft type. It is easier to work using a paper hardcopy, which you can throw away after the job is finished, since it will become dirty anyway).
A proper spare parts store area with shelves and possibly a refrigerator.
Shelves for disassembled aircraft parts.
Some old carpets as cover e.g. for wings when working on them, to prevent scratches and to put on the floor if you have to leave larger aircraft parts (e.g. a cowling) on the floor. Never leave aircraft parts on bare concrete, it will cause corrosion on aluminium.

Jan


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4467 times:

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 7):
Now that's too fancy

Well, since it's down in México, maybe you could hire a young cute barista who makes a mean cup of café con leche   



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User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4439 times:

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 19):
Jan

Great list.

However, would we really need such a large compressor? Not planning on doing any major fabricating, painting or much else other than putting air in the tires.

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 20):

Well, since it's down in México, maybe you could hire a young cute barista who makes a mean cup of café con leche

Actually, since the parent company is basically the Mexican version of Starbucks, then yeah there definitely won't be a shortage of coffee, or cute baristas 


User currently offlineLarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4426 times:

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 21):
However, would we really need such a large compressor? Not planning on doing any major fabricating, painting or much else other than putting air in the tires.

A nitrogen cart for the tires.

/Lars



139, 306, 319, 320, 321, 332, 34A, AN2, AT4, AT5, AT7, 733, 735, 73G, 738, 739, 146, AR1, BH2, CN1, CR2, DH1, DH3, DH4,
User currently offlinerottenray From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4369 times:

Quoting kl671 (Reply 12):
Hire Rottenray as your housekeeper . He is apparently more into real estate than operating an aircraft.

   WIN!

I do know more about facilities than I do aircraft maintenance equipment. I also know people in general perform much better when they are reasonably comfortable.

Change the job title to "Air Butler" and I'll sign on for a 3-month tour...


RR


User currently offlineAirportugal310 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3688 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4349 times:

Hey HMO..

What is the big industry down that way? Our company does send the occasional jet down there so I am curious.

Thanks



I sell airplanes and airplane accessories
25 Fly2HMO : One of Ford's largest plants is here. I know they send many cargo planes down here regularly. There's a huge manufacturing industry here, mostly elec
26 Fly2HMO : Back on topic, it just occurred to me, and surprised nobody has mentioned it, how would we go by servicing the potty? Is there anything special we wou
27 Post contains links WrenchBender : Basic requirements- Safety first: Fire extinguishers several (3-4) 15Lb Dry Chem, several (3-4) Pressurized water/foam. Spill response kit First aid k
28 KELPkid : Something tells me that, in a Bravo, you want to discourage the use of the lav as much as possible...here in the 'states, the servicing of lavs is be
29 RaginMav : I would imagine the Bravo's lav is the 'bucket' type you must remove from the aircraft to empty? We have a half-dozen here in our hangar, and just du
30 Post contains links Fly2HMO : Thanks to all for the excellent suggestions so far! Indeed. We want to make it clear to pax that it is for emergency purposes only. I believe it is. I
31 Airportugal310 : Just to name a few: FOS (for one aircraft is probably overkill) BART (i think this is very popular) SchedAero Airplane Manager
32 Post contains images KELPkid : Another consumable you might want to have on hand (in copious quantities): sic-sac's. There will be days where even the strongest of stomachs will nee
33 RaginMav : Way overkill for one aircraft. We use this for a fleet of ~25. I think initial buy-in costs are in the tens of thousands... That said, the software i
34 bjorn14 : Definitely a closed lid can for the oily rags.
35 bjorn14 : Also a washing machine and dryer for the oily rags or hire a laundry service.
36 474218 : Contact Cessna, I am sure they have a Maintainability and Reliability department that will provide all the information you need to establish your mai
37 SCCutler : Use a service! Fire hazard otherwise.
38 n901wa : Hi Fly2HMO, I hope the FAA downgrade of Mexico's Air-Safety rating is going to mess with your Company.
39 Post contains images Fly2HMO : I hope there's a typo somewhere in there
40 n901wa : Oops, Sorry. There's a Huge Typo. I hope its NOT going to mess with your plans. That's what happens when you work 22 horus straight. I know it's mess
41 Post contains links and images Larshjort : Here is the promised pictures of a Lektro 8600 and a Citation 550B Bravo /Lars
42 aogdesk : Deer antlers on the wall. Don't ask why, its just a must-have. Trust me.
43 Web : If you want to keep the plane in any sort of clean state, you'll need cleaning supplies. I've detailed more Bravos than I care to count, and here's wh
44 Post contains images Fly2HMO : Well I guess an update is in order: Plane is at its home, currently "crashing" with two other hangar-mates and will probably remain so for a while sin
45 B6A322 : One thing I might suggest, although pretty minor, is a snake light. They sell them at Home Depot and Lowe's, probably other hardware stores too. Its b
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