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User currently offlineegph From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 205 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2461 times:

Hey all,

I know airport security details can sometimes be quite secretive so if I am questions which I shouldn't really be asking do delete this!

Today on a flight from Edinburgh Airport to Dublin whilst passing through security my bag went through the X-ray and when it came out the other end, there seemed to be a problem as the staff wanted to do another check. This check involved taking what appeared to be a short stick, maybe 2 ft long and wiping it over the bag and then placing a piece of paper from the end of said stick in a machine that looked like a large cube, after about 15 seconds the guy took the paper out, checked it and gave me the all clear. Does anyone know what this machine is and what it checks for?

Kind regards!

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User currently offlineYWG From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 1140 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2452 times:

Quoting egph (Thread starter):
Does anyone know what this machine is and what it checks for?

It's a check for explosive residue. So assuming you made a bomb, you probably touched the bag and transferred it.


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User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2452 times:

Quoting egph (Thread starter):
Does anyone know what this machine is and what it checks for?

It's a chemical "sniffer". Primarily used to detect explosives

User currently onlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 5934 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2443 times:

Quoting YWG (Reply 1):

It's a check for explosive residue. So assuming you made a bomb, you probably touched the bag and transferred it

Or, if you fired a gun since the last time you took a shower, or handled fireworks...   Seriously, more people get "violated" by the TSA in the week following the 4th of July here in the USA. It doesn't take much to trigger a positive result for the explosive residue test...


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User currently offlineegph From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2441 times:

OK thanks guys, I am a very curious person and really didn't want to ask the security operative at the time!

So for this test to be carried out does there need to be suspicion from the X-ray or is it random as I have never seen this carried out before! For the record I have not touched any explosive or firework in my life and not fired a gun in my life, hope never to do so!

User currently offlineajd1992 From UK - England, joined Jul 2006, 2645 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2311 times:

You don't need to have touched anything like that to be swabbed positive for it.

I've had my stuff swabbed positive on numerous occasions because something in my shampoo is also used in explosives (It's common, apparently), and if you shower before you fly (as you should) and touch your stuff, it comes up as you've been handling explosives.

They usually laugh it off, but when you have a bag full of wires and a laptop, they do get suspicious and pull you to one side.

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2004, 15872 posts, RR: 66
Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2300 times:

Quoting egph (Reply 4):
So for this test to be carried out does there need to be suspicion from the X-ray or is it random

I have seen both.


"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots." - from Citadel by John Ringo
User currently offlineMingToo From Zimbabwe, joined Jun 2009, 464 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2289 times:

They use the same device on the Eurotunnel between the UK and France. Not on the passenger service, but on the car shuttle. They do it to all vehicles by swabbing the steering wheel.

They tend to do 5 or 6 at a time with the same swab then go off to check it. More efficient I guess and then presumably they would do it one at time after a positive.

User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13341 posts, RR: 64
Reply 8, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2201 times:

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 5):
I've had my stuff swabbed positive on numerous occasions because something in my shampoo is also used in explosives (It's common, apparently), and if you shower before you fly (as you should) and touch your stuff, it comes up as you've been handling explosives.

Nitro musk, an artificial component of parfumes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Musk_xylene.png

This stuff is used in bvery small quantities as a scent, but it is closely relateted to TNT and will, in bulk, explode just as well.

Jan

User currently offlineBlueJuice From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 2186 times:

Contact lens solution with hydrogen peroxide can cause problems as well.

User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 4744 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week ago) and read 2119 times:

Quoting egph (Reply 4):
So for this test to be carried out does there need to be suspicion from the X-ray or is it random

Both.


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