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Flight Crew Levels On Different Flights  
User currently offlineYYZRWY23 From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 561 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4039 times:

Hey a.net,

I was looking through my photos from a trip to England in March and remembered that there were only two pilots on the LGW-YYZ segment. I thought for a trans-Atlantic flight there would be a third flight crew member.

Could anyone enlighten me to the regulations that dictate flight crew levels? Also, could you post individual airline levels for different flights (transatlantic, transpacific.....etc)?

Thanks for the help.


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User currently offlineFlyHossD From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 1411 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4031 times:

Per the U.S. F.A.R.s (Federal Aviation Regulations), a third pilot isn't required unless the scheduled time
is greater than 8 hours.

IIRC, if an international flight is scheduled for greater than 12 hours, then a fourth pilot is required.

So, 8 hours or less = 2 pilots. 8.1 to 12 hours = 3 pilots. 12.1 to 16 = 4 pilots.

But don't quote me, I don't fly any of the long haul trips.

My statements do not represent my former employer or my current employer and are my opinions only.
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 29183 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4021 times:

Varies greatly between countries.

Canadian regulations can be viewed at;

See section 720.15-21 for flight time, duty and rest rules.

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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17668 posts, RR: 65
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4015 times:

Quoting YYZRWY23 (Thread starter):
I thought for a trans-Atlantic flight there would be a third flight crew member.

As noted by others, it is time that counts, not routing.

"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlinePGNCS From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 3081 posts, RR: 48
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3995 times:

I have done many, many Atlantic crossings from the US East coast to Europe (and vice-versa) with only 2 pilots under US FAR 121. FlyHossD gave a very good general explanation of the rules under US FAR 121. The bulk of these routes will be between the US Northeast and the UK in practicality.

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