GentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2075 posts, RR: 2 Posted (2 years 10 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1790 times:
I suspect I'm over thinking myself. Still I wanted toss out for discussion. Is a domestic corporate regional airport who wishes to woo regular scheduled regional jet airline service required to have a staffed ATC tower? The main runway is roughly 6000 feet long.
Corporate jets fly in and out all day long, I believe on their own recognizance or flight visual rules. Possibly ATC or radio ops is provided from off-site flight service station or in another building on airport grounds, I'm not really sure.
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Fly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1775 times:
Quoting GentFromAlaska (Thread starter): Is a domestic corporate regional airport who wishes to woo regular scheduled regional jet airline service required to have a staffed ATC tower?
Nope. There are many part 121 carriers flying into uncontrolled airports. Durango, CO is one that comes to mind.
Quoting GentFromAlaska (Thread starter): Possibly ATC or radio ops is provided from off-site flight service station or in another building on airport grounds, I'm not really sure.
Not necessarily. Once they have the airport in sight they advise Center and switch over to the Common Traffic Advisory Frequency (CTAF), which is used in uncontrolled airports or whenever there's a non-operating tower. It's basically an open frequency where you state who you are, what you're doing, where you're going etc just so everybody else in the area knows. The pilots become responsible for separation at that point. You don't need clearance to land or take-off in such airports. However you would need clearance from center or approach control if you're doing an approach.
dispatchguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1185 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1650 times:
Correct
For scheduled ops into a non-tower airport, per the airline opspecs (C080), the following is required:
A source of traffic advisories (CTAF fits the bill)
An approved source of weather
An instrument approach (if one is available)
Facilities and services necessary to conduct IFR operations safely are available and operational at the time of the particular operation.
As long as they have all of that, they are good to go...
Goldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5446 posts, RR: 12 Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1649 times:
Quoting dispatchguy (Reply 2): A source of traffic advisories (CTAF fits the bill)
An approved source of weather
An instrument approach (if one is available)
Facilities and services necessary to conduct IFR operations safely are available and operational at the time of the particular operation.
1) Most every airport (except, say, private dirt strips) is assigned a CTAF frequency anyhow, so check
2) Even if the airport does not have an ASOS/AWOS, the airline itself can do it. Mine does at a few locations
3) GPS? Check! (Of course, a start-up might not have this initially and would have to rely on a VOR approach, which would invalidate a GPS-only airport)
4) Lights aren't required if it's daylight only, but runway markings are.
Also, don't forget that the airport has to be Part 139 certified!
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