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What Happens To Leftover Airline Meals?  
User currently offlinecontrails67 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 68 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 11139 times:

Just wondering what happens to the leftover airline food? I know restaurants have to throw the food out for sanitary reasons..is that the same case for unused..unopened airline meals as well? Its a pity it can't be given to some food bank or homeless people.

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User currently offlineiairallie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 11134 times:

Some non-perishibles do occasionally get donated but for the most part it is all tossed. Considering most meals these days are served on international flights that food has to be tossed and burned on landing.

User currently offlineworkwings From United States of America, joined May 2010, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 11085 times:

Regarding the recycling of unused food: This is a true story. I worked in Delhi for several years in the late 1980s. Back then, it was not possible to buy anything in India that was not manufactured domestically. This included all sorts of foods: vinegar, peanut butter, and any foreign cheese.

Word went around our office that there was someone making the rounds who could get you cheese. The "cheese man" was selling individually wrapped small cheeses -- gouda, camembert, cheddar...-- for a pittance. We would buy them as this was a taste of home. To this day we are convinced that these had been rescued from the unused lots from AF, KL, LH, etc.


User currently offlineAirportugal310 From Tokelau, joined Apr 2004, 3683 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 11072 times:

Lord knows I have eaten my fair share of BOB meals, that came off unopened after the RON aircraft arrived.

Some really good stuff there!



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User currently offlinebrenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1708 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 10838 times:

Years ago, CX mentioned in the in-flight magazine that sealed meals were donated to charities and orphanages in Hong Kong. I remember thinking that was pretty cool.

I guess now those meals are incinerated.



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User currently offlinecharliecossie From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 479 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10753 times:

All airlines willingly donate all leftover food to their starving engineering staff.

User currently offlineslz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10682 times:

Quoting charliecossie (Reply 5):
All airlines willingly donate all leftover food to their starving engineering staff.

That's so true!

After a flight, cabin crew just pile up the leftovers in the galley so technicians, cleaners and ground staff can take what they want; the rest is then thrown away.

Quoting contrails67 (Thread starter):
Its a pity it can't be given to some food bank or homeless people.

and who's going to bring it to them, you think? Who's gonna cover the transportation bill?

Airlines have a budget for this and I don't think pax will be willing to pay yet another tax so leftovers can be re-distributed after flight.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 10555 times:

Out Here It goes to the Children Orphanage & Old Persons Home......Great Idea.
regds
MEL.



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 10554 times:

In the US, food left over from international flights has to be incinerated (along with the trash...).


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User currently onlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5762 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10418 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 8):
In the US, food left over from international flights has to be incinerated (along with the trash...).

Same in Australia, and very strictly enforced.

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User currently offlineboeing767mech From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1030 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 10344 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 8):
In the US, food left over from international flights has to be incinerated (along with the trash...).

It supposed to here but the mechanic recycle it before cartering gets to the airplane. Only good food you can get off a flight is an international flight. The junk they serve on the airplanes now is horrible. It is enough to make a someone not raid the galley anymore.

David



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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 10318 times:

When I worked with the RAF, they would put the left over meals from the Falkland flights in the squadron day room. If I could get there early enough I could maybe score some "steak and kidney pie" or "bangers and mash". Nothing ever went to waste and surly nothing was ever thrown away.

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10281 times:

Quoting charliecossie (Reply 5):
All airlines willingly donate all leftover food to their starving engineering staff.

Not at my airline!!! A big no-no!    If you are caught with that food, you're out the door. This is for the safety of said employee. FDA regulations plays a big role here....



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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 10272 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 12):
This is for the safety of said employee. FDA regulations plays a big role here....

How would the FDA be involved with airline food that was not consumed during a flight?

Local health departments or the airline on its own could establish rules that would prevent uneaten meals from being sold as new, being recycled (put on another flight) or eaten my an airline employee but the FDA would not be involved.

Every L-1011 built had a "certificate of sanitary construction" for the galleys. That certificate was issued not by the Food and Drug Administration but by the Los Angles County Health Department.


User currently offlinecharliecossie From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 479 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 10240 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 12):
If you are caught with that food, you're out the door.

That would theft, right? Perfectly understood. Same in every airline, I imagine.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 12):
This is for the safety of said employee.

What? The leftover meals on your airline may harm me? Sheet, I hope I never fly on your airline!

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 12):
FDA regulations plays a big role here....

If your food can hurt me, I doubt that very much.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10172 times:

Quoting charliecossie (Reply 14):
The leftover meals on your airline may harm me?

It has something to do with the food being left out for a period of time in a warm environment. We are not the only airline that has to follow this rule. Other airlines/vendors have to follow this rule as well.

Quoting charliecossie (Reply 14):
If your food can hurt me, I doubt that very much.

Do some research on how food is to be stored and what temps they have to be where you can go get your food handlers permit at your local Health and Safety Department. It is a FDA regulation. I don't make the rules, neither does my airline. The FDA does as well as the USDA.

Quoting 474218 (Reply 13):
How would the FDA be involved with airline food that was not consumed during a flight?

See above.



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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10167 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 15):
Do some research on how food is to be stored and what temps they have to be where you can go get your food handlers permit at your local Health and Safety Department. It is a FDA regulation. I don't make the rules, neither does my airline. The FDA does as well as the USDA.


Your correct the FDA makes the rules (regulations). However, they "do not" enforce the rules.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10160 times:

Quoting 474218 (Reply 16):
However, they "do not" enforce the rules.

Then who do you think enforces the rules?   



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User currently offlineetherealsky From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 328 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 10144 times:

Quoting charliecossie (Reply 14):
That would theft, right? Perfectly understood. Same in every airline, I imagine.

I imagine that the airline is more concerned about its employees breaking federal regulations - and the associated fines that accompany those violations.

Quoting charliecossie (Reply 14):

Hopefully someone familiar with the FDA or equivalent regulatory bodies from other countries will reply, but I think the reasoning is along the lines of 'foreign countries do not necessarily apply the same food standards as we do, so it would be wrong to allow that food to be distributed.' And I would assume the only real way to control that food is to make sure it is all disposed of after the flight.

When I say "the same standards" keep in mind that health/quality-of-food concerns might not be the main motivation behind this practice. I'm willing to bet there are more complicated reasons relating to the ability to keep track of where the ingredients were sourced from, the difficulties in preventing food from being 'sold' by third parties if it were to be given away after the flight; etc.

Just my opinion though; I could be totally wrong.

Also, FlyingColours wrote a very interesting post relating to customs regulations in the EU regarding food/BOB stuff:
Stranded Ryanair Passengers Saved By The Police (by OEH68 Jun 25 2010 in Civil Aviation)

(the link should point to reply #21)



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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 10120 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 17):
Then who do you think enforces the rules?

The local health departments.


User currently offlineTHEBATMAN From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 849 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9678 times:
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Quoting contrails67 (Thread starter):
Just wondering what happens to the leftover airline food?

We eat it.

Quoting boeing767mech (Reply 10):
It supposed to here but the mechanics recycle it before cartering gets to the airplane.

Yep - exactly right. If it's edible, we will find it.

Quoting charliecossie (Reply 14):
What? The leftover meals on your airline may harm me? Sheet, I hope I never fly on your airline!

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User currently offlineluckyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 9439 times:

Quoting 474218 (Reply 16):
our correct the FDA makes the rules (regulations). However, they "do not" enforce the rules.
Quoting 474218 (Reply 19):
The local health departments.

Semantics. Should the FDA revoke a permit or certification (and it happens) it effectively halts at the very least that aspect of your business.


User currently offlinebabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9365 times:

Quoting charliecossie (Reply 5):
All airlines willingly donate all leftover food to their starving engineering staff.

When I was a ramper I'd always have a queue on the airstairs of hungry engineering staff, bus drivers and various other ancilliary staff waiting for me to open the door of an overnight flight with spare unused hot breakfasts.

Naturally I had to inspect the ovens first and take away samples or at least, as many I could squeeze into a bag.

If it's good food, none of it is wasted.


User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14129 posts, RR: 62
Reply 23, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 9403 times:

the airlines could care less if some tech gets an iffy stomach after eating a leftover meal, but the main issue is that a lot of people thought that they had a right to take food from an airplane. At a cargo company I worked for, the ramp agents and us engineers were tolerated to help ourselves to leftover food and drinks after a flight, but soon every manb and his dog (even those not working for this airline, like cargo loaders and fuelers) thought that they could just walk up to the flight deck and help themselves.
Another thing was that at the airlines I worked for in the past there were some "never do" rules involved:
1) Never take food from a freshly catered aircraft, only old food from incoming aircraft.
2) Never take any food or drinks out of the airport. Only take what you can consume on the airport
3) (on passenger aircraft)Never touch the customs goods boxes containing alcoholic drinks duty free goods. An occasional pack of coffee for the crewroom was tolerated, but never alcohol. You were not allowed to drink any at the airport anyway, so why take it? Taking such stuff from the airport would make it automatically contraband and the whole thing a customs offense.

But obviously there were plenty of idiots who did not obey these rules ( I knew one mechanic, who too binliners full of softdrink cans home for his family until he got caught) or guys who got caught with bottles of alcoholic drinks or cigarettes and were promply arrested for smuggling. Or other indiots, who walked up on an aircraft ready for departure and raided the galley, so that there wasn´t enough food left for the passengers.
These guys spoiled it for everybody else, since the airline now had to crack down on the issue and made it illegal for everybody to get food and drinks from an aircraft.

Jan


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20241 posts, RR: 59
Reply 24, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 9352 times:

I read a story once about a lady who ran an operation (at LAX I think) where they composted the leftover food, instead of incinerating it.

25 HAWK21M : Out here Maintenance personnell or others....The Leftover food cannot be touched.Unless officially handed over to the concerned dept. The catering te
26 AirframeAS : How does your Catering department prevent foodborne illnesses when doing that? Isn't that a bad idea to give these organizations the left over food w
27 aogdesk : Back in the day when offloading Pan Am sports charters, they used to let us take EVERYTHING! Steak, shrimp, salads...beer. Plates & utensils....my
28 Post contains images AirframeAS : Too bad that can't be done anymore. I used to do that as a kid. I am still missing two forks from my AS utensil set.
29 DashTrash : You ought to see all the leftovers that are given away after a private jet gets where it's going.
30 SNLH : Wow, I thought the catering carts would be refrigerated ! Has no airline a refrigerated ? But how do they keep then the fruit nice and fresh on a lon
31 AirframeAS : Dry Ice. That is all I can say.
32 HAWK21M : The Catering Dept that offloads the food has their personell certify its quality status before its moved to these homes. regds MEL.
33 AirframeAS : Do you guys not have Health Departments at all??
34 HAWK21M : The Catering department has a rep that is answerable to Food & Drug Authority [FDA] under the Ministry of health,No Direct control. regds MEL.
35 ReidYYZ : I consider stuffing my face after an arrival as a non taxable benefit (humor detector on. No, Revenue Canada does not have a box 985 on T4 slips to re
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