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Does Anybody Have Photos Of Data Plates?  
User currently offlinewarbirdplates From Spain, joined Aug 2010, 8 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 4 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4804 times:

Good day,

Does anybody have photos of data plates of engines and/or planes?

Regards,
Marcel

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User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4731 times:

Quoting warbirdplates (Thread starter):

Does anybody have photos of data plates of engines and/or planes?

Ask and Google provides.

Aircraft data plates: http://www.google.com/images?q=aircr...mode&ved=0CBMQ_AU&biw=1280&bih=640

Engine data plates: http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&c...+plate&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Tom.


User currently offlinewarbirdplates From Spain, joined Aug 2010, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4726 times:

Good one Tom ... anyway, that's what I made first  
Thanks but I was looking for rare plates out-of-the-usual ones.
For example actual Boeing/Airbus/McDonnell Douglas civilian planes which are very RARE to find any photo on the net.

Marcel


User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4652 times:

Quoting warbirdplates (Reply 2):
Thanks but I was looking for rare plates out-of-the-usual ones.

Oddly, most of the stuff you can find photos of are rare aircraft...which is why there are photos of the data plates in the first place.

Quoting warbirdplates (Reply 2):
For example actual Boeing/Airbus/McDonnell Douglas civilian planes which are very RARE to find any photo on the net.

So you're looking for rare *photos*, not photos of data plates of rare *aircraft*, right? If so, what specifically are you looking for and I can refine my search.

Tom.


User currently offlinewarbirdplates From Spain, joined Aug 2010, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4601 times:

Hi Tom,

For example ... actual civilian planes, I just could find a photo with a data plate of a B-757 and a C-17, nothing else, strange but true. I'm doing a webpage to place all this photos of data plates and it's courious to find more photographed data plates of planes and engines from WWII than the actual ones.

I'm only interested on the data plates.

Have a nice day,
Marcel


User currently offlinewarbirdplates From Spain, joined Aug 2010, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4599 times:

Well C-17 is military ... but what I mean is that it's more complicated to find a data plate from actual planes than from the ones who have lots of years.
Did you ever see an Airbus data plate? Not me yet.

Marcel


User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4536 times:

Don't know if this is what you are talking about...each component has a data plate, one shot is from Airbus A300 aft cargo door...the other is from A300 nose gear door.
A300cargodoor
A300nosegeardoor


User currently offlinewarbirdplates From Spain, joined Aug 2010, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4454 times:

Wow!! Great!! That's what I was talking about!!
Thanks!!


User currently offlineandz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8468 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4453 times:
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Date of Made... let's hope the construction quality is better than the English.


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User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4406 times:

Quoting andz (Reply 8):
let's hope the construction quality is better than the English

("Type of Material", A300)?...that would be aluminum....("Aircraft Type")=A300.B


User currently offlineAirportugal310 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3719 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4387 times:

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 6):
Don't know if this is what you are talking about...each component has a data plate, one shot is from Airbus A300 aft cargo door...the other is from A300 nose gear door.

Question from curious mind:

If each component has a data plate, how much extra weight on a plane do you venture to guess is added from all these data plates? I would probably say 50 lbs or so...metal does add up!

I am going to assume, hopefully correctly, that many are stamped onto pieces.

Just throwing it out there for fodder   



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User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2469 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4370 times:

Quoting Airportugal310 (Reply 10):
If each component has a data plate, how much extra weight on a plane do you venture to guess is added from all these data plates? I would probably say 50 lbs or so...metal does add up!

Each part does not have a data plate. The entire plane will have a couple of data plates. The FAR 23 requirements specify that only one is required per aircraft.



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User currently offlineAirportugal310 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3719 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4365 times:

Quoting CitationJet (Reply 11):
Each part does not have a data plate. The entire plane will have a couple of data plates. The FAR 23 requirements specify that only one is required per aircraft.

Sounds good to me, but I think we have conflicting data now that needs to be clarified:

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 6):
each component has a data plate
Quoting CitationJet (Reply 11):
ach part does not have a data plate.

Now, I could have possibly misinterpreted the word "component" for "part", which is my fault.



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User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4359 times:

Quoting Airportugal310 (Reply 10):
If each component has a data plate, how much extra weight on a plane do you venture to guess is added from all these data plates? I would probably say 50 lbs or so...metal does add up!

Each component has some kind of identifying area that gives the part number, serial number (if applicable), sometimes a name, and sometimes a manufacturer. This is not precisely a "data plate" in the sense the OP meant.

Quoting Airportugal310 (Reply 10):
I am going to assume, hopefully correctly, that many are stamped onto pieces.

Part marks (what you're talking about) are often stamped or printed and covered with clearcoat. Actual physical data plates (chunks of metal fastened to the object) do exist on certain parts, but by no means all.

Tom.


User currently offlineAirportugal310 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3719 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4350 times:

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 13):
Part marks (what you're talking about) are often stamped or printed and covered with clearcoat. Actual physical data plates (chunks of metal fastened to the object) do exist on certain parts, but by no means all.

Thanks Tom...sounds like I confused two different things into one.



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User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4275 times:

Quoting Airportugal310 (Reply 10):


With exception of plates that exposed to slipstream, like gear doors the rest of the data "tags" appear to be nothing more than heavy gauge speed tape, screen printed and stamped. Cumulatively I would imagine the total weight to be negligible. All the vertical fin panels I have are tagged but the wing composite panels are not???. If tags are not used then simple stamping much like rubber stamps are used. Boeing and MDouglas big with that. Airbus stamps w/ ink part numbers but I guess as Airbus is an international consortium...they each label their products...???


User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2469 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4185 times:

Quoting Airportugal310 (Reply 12):
but I think we have conflicting data now that needs to be clarified:

The requirements for ID plates for aircraft are found in FAR 45.11 Marking of Products. Part 121 operations must have the ID plate near an entrance, otherwise the aircraft ID plate must be on the fuselage exterior so that it is legible to a person on the ground, and must be adjacent to and aft of the rear-most entrance door, or on the fuselage surface near the tail surfaces.

The above is for the marking of product, the marking of parts is a different issue.

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Gu...y/rgFAR.nsf/MainFrame?OpenFrameSet



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User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4101 times:

Quoting CitationJet (Reply 16):

Boeing and the others do affix a riveted, engraved or chemically etched data plate reflecting the serial number, model type and date of manufacture of the completed airframe and by whom. While many parts, gear doors, entry doors, nose bowl, fairings do have manufacturing plates on them. Interesting enough TWA had their own parts numbering system and TWA logo plate or tag that supplemented the others from Boeing, for example. I don't know how many other carriers do this if any...First shot=TWA 747 nose gear door part tag...second image...MD80 stamp method
TWA nose door, 747
MD-80 stamp


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