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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3397 posts, RR: 2
Posted (3 years 11 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4127 times:

If a pilot has bid up to a new a/c type and continues to fail his check ride how long does an airline wait before passing him over to the next bidder?


"I want to know the voice of God the rest is just details" --A. Einstein
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User currently offlineCosmicCruiser From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2255 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4055 times:

Depends on the airline. We get 3 strikes and you're out. Usually if you bust 2 you get the option of going back to your old seat and be frozen for 2 yrs or taking one last chkride and play bet your job.

User currently offlineYWG From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 1146 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4018 times:

Two strikes you're out here. You loose your IFR in Canada too.


Contact Winnipeg center now on 134.4, good day.
User currently offlinejosekmlb From United States of America, joined May 2008, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3728 times:

Quoting YWG (Reply 2):

Ouch that has to suck...


User currently offlinepropjock04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3661 times:

At my company if you fail a check ride in larger equipment, you get one recheck before your future employment is "evaluated." If you fail out of training in larger equipment, you must take a check ride in your current equipment to prove you can still do the job.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 11 hours ago) and read 3350 times:

Quoting josekmlb (Reply 3):

Ouch that has to suck..

Considering theres only one chance at a sucessfull landing each time thereafter.Two chances is a Luxury.
regds
MEL.



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3397 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3275 times:

So what does everyone think is a fair solution?


"I want to know the voice of God the rest is just details" --A. Einstein
User currently offlineslz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3247 times:

As said before, most airlines have a policy that if you fail a retake, you have a problem and are in need of 'help', often meaning you are sent back to your previous type and will get additional training/coaching in a familiar seat on your weakspots. After a few years, you may then try again should you wish, but you can expect to be more closely watched this time and you better dont fail again then...  

It's very rare to see somebody fail a checkride at an airline however, let alone twice in a row...

Personally I've only see it happen once and that guy ultimately took the offer of early retirement as he was 2 years away from retirement anyway, having to transition from 737 to A320 not due to his own bidding, but due to a complete fleet renewal....


User currently offlineCosmicCruiser From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2255 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3243 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 5):
Considering theres only one chance at a sucessfull landing each time thereafter.Two chances is a Luxury.
regds
MEL.

Let me make 2 points. first, for the co.s that still use the "old" style chk ride. eg. prochk standards, your're doing nothing that you see on a normal daily flight. It's stuff that if you're lucky only see twice a year with no way to practice. Second, some co.s have now moved on to a "continuing qualification" format that is certainly more informative and practical. Most things are done real time with some items unbriefed. I think your actually learn more with this format and the failure rate is less. No co. should want to terminate any crewmember unless absolutely necessary considering we all met the hiring parameters at the interview and lots of money is invested in trg. Sometimes there's no other choice but it shouldn't be because of a single failed sim ride.


User currently offlinespudsmac From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 297 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3193 times:

A bit off topic, but what about if you fail a checkride like for CFI-I. Do the airlines care about that even though it's not required?

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