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Question On New York Approach Routes  
User currently offlineSoxfan From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 865 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4028 times:

Hi All,

I have seen commercial planes (regional and mainline) descending relatively low in New York City along the following locations:

-Flying parallel over Broadway on the Upper West Side (by Columbia University)

-Flying parallel over Seventh Avenue in Brooklyn

Does anyone know what approach routes these are, and into which NY or NJ airports these planes are flying?

Thanks,

Soxfan  


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User currently offlineBigSaabowski From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3955 times:

Both are LGA arrival routes.

Quoting Soxfan (Thread starter):

-Flying parallel over Broadway on the Upper West Side (by Columbia University)

Either right downwind for 22, or river visual (or ILS) for 13.

Quoting Soxfan (Thread starter):


-Flying parallel over Seventh Avenue in Brooklyn

Straight in runway 4, or expressway visual 31.

[Edited 2010-11-11 18:53:51]

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21634 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3920 times:

Quoting BigSaabowski (Reply 1):
Quoting Soxfan (Thread starter):


-Flying parallel over Seventh Avenue in Brooklyn

Straight in runway 4, or expressway visual 31.

Also could be for 22 (when departing on 31) or the localizer approach to 31.

-Mir



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User currently offlinepilotpip From United States of America, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 3150 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3896 times:

Most of the traffic you're seeing, as stated, is going to LGA. They like to use (and I like to fly) the Expressway visual to 31 and as the winds shift you'll see the aircraft flying up the Hudson for a visual approach to 22. The Expressway visual is particularly common. As you fly up the East River, you fly over two tanks, then follow the Long Island Expressway. I follow that to just past Citi Field, swing around the US Open Stadium and the big globe at the World's Fair site pointing towards a Home Depot and finally rolling out on about a 1/2 mile final.

A visual to 22 is usually just vectors to final. It works well for me because I get a great view of Manhattan and Central Park since it's on my side of the aircraft  



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User currently offlineSoxfan From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 865 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3896 times:

I thought the route over Broadway was for LGA but had no idea about the one over Brooklyn. Thanks very much for your help!  


Pilot: "Request push, which way should we face?" JFK Ground: "You better face the front, sir, or you'll scare the pax!"
User currently offlinemodesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2801 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3623 times:

The approach over the Hudson sounds like the arrivals I've done to LGA's runway 22. When I flew for ExpressJet from CLE, we'd using the Milton STAR arriving from the east. That procedure drops us off near the Statue of Liberty (southern tip of Manhattan). New York Approach then vectors us north along the Hudson and turns us east over the Bronx for the right base to runway 22. One of my favorite approaches!

User currently offlinepilotpip From United States of America, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 3150 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3329 times:

Quoting Soxfan (Reply 4):
I thought the route over Broadway was for LGA but had no idea about the one over Brooklyn. Thanks very much for your help!

If Brooklyn is the one that is just to the East of Manhattan, then yes we do. Kind of a tight space because JFK is only ~5 miles away.



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