Soxfan From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 874 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4069 times:
A quick question: Except for a diversion, can a crew timeout only prior to takeoff, or can it be after landing as well? If the latter, what happens if, say, a plane has landed at its destination airport but is stuck waiting for a gate for three hours, which is longer than the designated time for the crew. What happens in that scenario?
Pilot: "Request push, which way should we face?" JFK Ground: "You better face the front, sir, or you'll scare the pax!"
spchamp1 From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4023 times:
Pilots can timeout after landing but before they get to the gate. They will maintain control of the A/C until it is parked in the gate. Hell, they are probably getting paid for it, why complain. The only thing it should really affect would be their report time the following "legal" flying day.
Gman3 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 290 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3852 times:
Pay depends on the airline. At mine (united) we get paid from the time the brakes are released until the time they are set. So if we take a delay on the runway we get paid. But if we are at the gate with the door open, we do not get paid, i have had 4 hour delays at the gate and do not get paid a dime despite the fact that I am working. This also goes for boarding the aircraft. We do no get paid for that either.
pilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3152 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3491 times:
The big reason it happens "prior" to departure is because we can't depart if there is any reason we might exceed duty limitations. Diversions included. The 16 hour duty limit is a hard limit. You're not supposed to exceed it. Period.
Typically if the delays are getting long enough and our duty is getting close to that 16 hours (or less depending on rest) it's not unusual for us to get reassigned or have a reserve pilot take over to prevent delays or stranding passengers. It does happen sometimes though. Last summer I timed out when we diverted to LIT on a COS-ATL leg due to thunderstorms. We did our best to hold as long as safely possible knowing full well that the second our wheels touched in LIT I was done. Because of the WX and the time of day they were unable to get another FO to the aircraft and as a result about 65 passengers spend the night in the Arkansas capital on Delta's dime.