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Toxic Fumes In BAe 146 / Avro  
User currently offlineNavigator From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 14
Posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3806 times:

Hi,
I just wonder if they ever solved the problem with toxic fumes in the cabins of the BAe 146 / Avro. On rare occasions pilots complained of headaces and other problems related to toxic fumes coming from the bleed air system (I believe). Australian pilots had severe problems related to this. There was also one occurence when a Malmo Aviation pilot experienced problems.

What is the status here? Was the problem ever solved?


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User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3653 times:

Quoting Navigator (Thread starter):
What is the status here? Was the problem ever solved?

I'm not aware of any concrete definition of the problem itself, let alone whether or not it was solved. Complaints of "toxic fumes" are a very touchy subject within aviation, especially when reported only by the crew, because they tend to be *extremely* airline specific. In other words, one or two airlines will report a huge rash of problems while dozens of others with exactly the same aircraft will report nothing. This makes OEM's very suspicious that it's something beyond the design (i.e. operational procedure, unusual environment, labour issues, etc.), so these types of problems are more often solved at the airline level.

Tom.


User currently offlineNavigator From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3464 times:

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 1):
I'm not aware of any concrete definition of the problem itself, let alone whether or not it was solved. Complaints of "toxic fumes" are a very touchy subject within aviation, especially when reported only by the crew, because they tend to be *extremely* airline specific. In other words, one or two airlines will report a huge rash of problems while dozens of others with exactly the same aircraft will report nothing. This makes OEM's very suspicious that it's something beyond the design (i.e. operational procedure, unusual environment, labour issues, etc.), so these types of problems are more often solved at the airline level.


I know about the discussion you are referring to but this was a specific problem with the BAe 146 / Avro. The problem was identified and not just a discission issue. Malmo Aviation had an incident when a captain became incapacitated. SAS discontinued wetleasing Avros because of discussions like this in norwegian media. It was a real issue. I just wonder what happened and if BAe has solved the problem?



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