Ryu2 From Taiwan, joined Aug 2002, 490 posts, RR: 0 Posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1193 times:
Are IFR clearances for airline flights all done over ACARS these days, or do you guys still use the radio at times? I was listening to clearance delivery frequency at LAX, and only heard the occasional Skywest Brasilia.
De727ups From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 814 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1052 times:
Wow...the clearance delivery position at LAX used to be one of the toughest to work with the volume of calls...and you didn't used to have to be a "controller" to work it. They used to use lowly Air Traffic Assistants to work the position....I know, cause I used to be one at LAX approach in the mid-80's. We made a fraction of the salary of a controller. I believe the ATA's are long gone from terminal facilities....still some at the centers. Seems unfair now that the clearance delivery position is easy because of ACARS and they use highly paid controllers to staff it.
The ultimate spotters job would be working as a tower controller at LAX....
Iainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1050 times:
^^ Everytime I went into LAX I was firstly asked to stand-by, and then I was forgotten about, so after 5-7 minutes I asked again, and then they apologized and gave me a clearance.
I have been up the old tower at LAX, and the view from there is the best!
FlightSimFreak From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 720 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 977 times:
Well, most airports (except the largest) dosn't have ACARS clearence delivery, if they have delivery at all!
Not true! I live near PSC (tri-cities international airport in Pasco, WA). We get about 6 or 7 commercial flights a day, and we have a dedicated clearance delivery freq, although it's patched to the ground controller's freq. so most people do the callup over ground.
Penguinflies From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 988 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 881 times:
some smaller airports with clearance delivery are patched in to the local approach (St. Louis Approach with SUS, CPS and other surrounding airports). That way pilots can talk to ATC rather than FSS for clearance delivery and to cancel IFR clearences when they land...the result...less work for FSS when towers are closed, and increase traffic because pilots can just exit the runway and tell someone they landed, rather than having to taxi to the ramp and get out a phone.