sf3sce From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 115 posts, RR: 0 Posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5015 times:
Hello guys! I got word Southwest Airlines will be hiring Monday for Flight Attendants, a dream of mine for many, many years. I currently am enrolled in Flight School at Embry-Riddle and not very happy with my choice. To give you some more background information I am 19 years old and in 8 months I will be 20, the age at which Southwest hires their Cabin Crew. I was wondering what people would think on here, do you think they would hire someone shy of their 20th birthday, if they can prove themselves? I have Two years experience as a Shift Manager and a few months as a Store Manager. I miss the customer service industry and know that I am meant to be a Flight Attendant, not a Pilot. This opportunity means the world to me and I really just want to know what my chances are, thats why I am coming to you guys! All your support and feedback will be much appreciated!
floridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1998 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4736 times:
Most airlines I have dealt with won't even talk to you unless you meet their set age requirement for the FA job. I had a friend apply at an airline, get an interview, and between the interview being scheduled and him actually getting there, the company raised the age and called him to cancel the interview. I'm sure they will be hiring several times over the next few years, though!
longhauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4564 posts, RR: 36 Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4628 times:
You likely would never even get to a stage where you could "prove yourself". If you put your correct age on your (likely) online/electronic application, it wouldn't even get processed. And ... if you lie about your age, and it was ever found out, you would never work for Southwest.
Patience Grasshopper, Patience.
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swa4life From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 376 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4595 times:
Being hired as a flight attendant at Southwest is extremely difficult and most people (even internal applicants) are turned away for very minor reasons. Such a glaring disqualification would certainly not be overlooked.
jetmarc From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 537 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4450 times:
Some airlines wont even interview you if you dont meet the minimum age (minimum requirements)... I heard years ago that you as long as you start training by the minimum age, some even as long as you reach minimum age before graduation.
However, with the tens of thousands of applicants that meet the minimum age, I feel you would be easily and immediately weeded out for not meeting the minimum requirements.
That being said, be careful when applying... don't do it just to see if you can skirt the minimum age rule. If you apply and are turned down, you may not be allowed to re-apply for 6 or 12 months and that could set you back even further. Definetly dont try to lie about age. The entire application process is also used to see if applicants can comprehend directions, demonstrate integrity, and helps to narrow down to the truly employable applicants.
It would be a good idea to call and check with each airline first about the age requirement... it would be even better to simply wait and not have to worry.
I had to wait too. Even to transfer departments within my own airline. Patience paid off, I scored an "interview" 2 days after my 20th Birthday and was placed in training 3 weeks later.
[Edited 2011-02-12 10:24:46]
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type-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4730 posts, RR: 20 Reply 7, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4372 times:
Are you enrolled in a flying cirriclum at ERAU? It would sure seem a waste of money to leave if you are. But maybe better now than later when you have put even more money into ERAU.
I know people at your age tend to look at the "here and now" rather than the future. Believe me, you have a lifetime ahead of you to do the things you really want to do. Just remember that there will be other jobs and other airlines in the future.
Fly North Central Airlines..The route of the Northliners!
sf3sce From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 115 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4231 times:
I guess to clear somethings up, I have always wanted to be a pilot but I have wanted to try and be a Flight Attendant, especially if it involves one of my favorite airlines, Southwest for a temporary position. I am not really happy about the people here at ERAU, I do love the program though, I think it has been the best Flight Training I have done thus far. I was intending on dropping out but taking a break from this career to try something else out.
flyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1864 posts, RR: 3 Reply 9, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3899 times:
There will certainly be a question included on the assessment which will ask if you are at least of a certain age, which regarding the position you're not, and therefore the computer system would probably disqualify you based on that alone.
I will say however be very cautious when making these decisions, I am twenty three and have been flying since I was 18, and went to school simultaneously during points in my flying career, and it's very difficult. I recommend attending to education and then flying after or towards the end.
Don't get stuck working for any airline that has less than three FAs on board their aircraft as it will simply suck, and honestly don't believe experience is important as education. If flight school isn't your thing, and your sure of this given your already substantial investment, I would recommend finding something else completely different, applying credits towards a degree program elsewhere as this will look very well to any on-board services department in the future.
Also, there will be a lot of retirements in the flight attendant position over the years to come, so working on a second language could also help your chances of establishing a position with a major network carrier.
Think about the types of flying your drawn too, you've mentioned Southwest. However Remember about southwest, it's renown as a great company in the industry, but over the last few years WN hasn't been proofed from the struggles the rest of the industry has either, and has in many I've talked to opinions, changed their views on a lot of labor related activities which still remain a fundamental blueprint of their success. They are certainly going through changes there with their business model however. I know their FAs are the best paid (for now), but they also fly, what some would describe as, harder schedules.
Don't get me wrong, I would have loved to fly for Southwest if I would have had the chance too before where I am at now, but these are just things for you to consider from one young guy who's spent time in this industry to another contemplating a career such as this.
And let me tell you by the way, being a flight attendant is so fun, especially if you love planes. You make a lot of friends, and build amazing memories. If you want more pointers drop me an e-mail.
Elevated From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 293 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3818 times:
I am surprised it's not 21 at Southwest. At my airline it requires you to be 21 or be age 21 by your graduation date. I would get this question straightened out before you put the energy in applying. I heard Southwest hired around 400 in-house employees just recently from a co-workers Mom who is in-flight there. Airlines are starting to hire again that traditionally haven't in a while, so Southwest isn't you're only option if this time doesn't work out.
An age discrepancy is a very quick way to get disqualified. There will be literally thousands applying when it does become open.
flyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1864 posts, RR: 3 Reply 11, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3666 times:
Elevated, is certainly correct- I would imagine, especially given the following southwest has built internally in the airline industry, that thousands and thousands will apply for the open positions.
at least half of my close friends are not inside the industry, and have no want or desire to be, in-fact they find it completely unattractive for a career and in some cases downright demeaning, whereas I myself couldn't imagine a day in there shoes- I guess it's all just preferences, however given that insight, I always find it so astonishing that such a vast group of applicants apply for flight attendant positions specifically. Even some of the worst regional airlines out there really don't have a hard time finding flight attendants... it's a job that pretty much any 19 year old will jump at...as I've "noticed"
flyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1864 posts, RR: 3 Reply 13, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3637 times:
The age to serve varies I believe, I've been told several different stories. Some say its a state where the carrier is based, others that federal law dictates. However, when I started flying, I was 18, and there were a few regionals back then that were hiring at that age. They were smart too. To be quite honest, I feel that they were successfully able to recruit a more inexperienced, mold-able slate so to speak who didn't have financial obligations (many of us lived at home and were just finishing highschool), and was able to provide a better quality product for a lower price as opposed to more experienced, established adults who wanted (and rightfully expected) more money for any starting position.
pilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3119 posts, RR: 11 Reply 14, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3556 times:
Quoting flyboy80 (Reply 13): They were smart too. To be quite honest, I feel that they were successfully able to recruit a more inexperienced, mold-able slate so to speak who didn't have financial obligations (many of us lived at home and were just finishing highschool), and was able to provide a better quality product for a lower price as opposed to more experienced, established adults who wanted (and rightfully expected) more money for any starting position.
My airline used to be one of those. They just changed their policy to 21. Why? Because too many 18-20 year olds didn't take things seriously. They had zero work ethic and didn't care about doing the job properly. We had a ton of complaints and a very high turnover.
You get exactly what you pay for. This is a glaring example.
flyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1864 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3535 times:
Quoting pilotpip (Reply 14): You get exactly what you pay for. This is a glaring example.
Oh I totally agree, however I must say it can be a two edged sword. I know a lot of people I fly with now that are in the thirties and forties and are much less reliable then a lot of the "kids" I fly with (including myself)
But I think the point to make clear here is, as you said, that even from 18 or nineteen, to the early twenties, there is a considerable amount of maturing in many cases.