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Spotters-Can You Tell A/c Type By The Reg?  
User currently offline26point2 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 829 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2990 times:

Do airlines assign registration numbers to aircraft dependent on type? Can spotters tell what type it is only by the tail numbers?

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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17044 posts, RR: 67
Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2936 times:

Many airlines do assign by type. For example BA Concordes were G-BOAA, G-BOAB and so forth down to G-BOAG. The reason was that G-BOAC was a tribute to BOAC and was the first Concorde in the BOAC/BA fleet. So yes, there can a lot of significance in regs.

So yes, many spotters can tell the type by reg in many cases.



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User currently onlineMichaelEI From Ireland, joined Jan 2011, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2934 times:

I can but only because of familiarity with them. Like I know that EI-DEA - > EI-DET are all EI A320s. And that N825-845MH are all DL 764ERs.

User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2923 times:

Many American carriers are like that. On both DL and EV I know what type of a/c one may be just by the N #.


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User currently offlineRJLover From Canada, joined Dec 2006, 577 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2768 times:

Most Air Canada/Jazz aircraft do not follow a pattern, but I could still tell you the aircraft type if you gave me the reg.! One of the unintended benefits of working for the airline!


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User currently onlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4993 posts, RR: 43
Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2757 times:

Quoting RJLover (Reply 4):
but I could still tell you the aircraft type if you gave me the reg

One of the interesting things AC does, is re-use registrations from their past. I am not sure if this is intentional or not. For example:

C-FNAP


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There are a few more, and they continually cause havoc in my personal electronic log book when I have flown the same aircraft registration more than once, but on a different type.

But, more to the point of this thread, I think there are certain registrations that for whatever reason, stick in our mind ... like G-BOAC mentioned above, or G-ALYP, N707PA, CF-EJD, N747PA etc.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25372 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2735 times:

Quoting longhauler (Reply 5):
One of the interesting things AC does, is re-use registrations from their past.

CP re-used registrations on quite a few aircraft. For example, CF-CPD was used on a DC-4, Britannia and 737-200.


C-FCRA was used on a 747-200, DC-10-30 and 747-400.


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User currently offlinesancho99504 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2635 times:

America West was easy because the a320s are N6XXAW, A319s are N8XXAW, 733s are N3XXAW, and 752s are N9XXAW, so at PHX when at the gate looking at the inbound flight information, the screen would read SEA for destination, 2055 for departure, -72 for minutes to departure, or in some cases +12 for minutes past departure, N323AW for a/c type, and 898 for flight number......pretty easy to know a/c type without seeing the bird


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User currently offlinecpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 38
Reply 8, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2623 times:

Yes, quite easy.

Anything 9V-SQ.... is always A380, same as a VH-OQ.... registrations, just like A6-ED..... ones, or VH-OG..... are nearly always B767-338/ER, and VH-OJ..... ones are nearly always B747-438.

It's always the same with big fleets of some of the Asian/Australian/Middle-Eastern carriers, they are quite methodical with their naming.


User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2616 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2571 times:
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Quoting cpd (Reply 8):
Anything 9V-SQ.... is always A380, same as a VH-OQ.... registrations, just like A6-ED..... ones, or VH-OG..... are nearly always B767-338/ER, and VH-OJ..... ones are nearly always B747-438.

Err ... 9V-SQ* are B777-200ERs. 9V-SK* are A380s.

For airlines that have different registration series for different aircraft, it's quite easy to tell the aircraft type just by the registration. But for some other airlines, it might be a bit more difficult.

With CX, B-HNA/B/C/D/L are all B777-200s, and any other B-HN* registrations are B777-300s.

B-HL* and B-LA* are A333s.

B-HO* and B-HU* are RR-powered B747-467s, while B-HK* are PW powered ex-SQ B747-412s.

B-LI* = B747-467/ER(F)
B-LJ* = B747-867F
B-KP* = B777-367/ER
B-HX* = A340-343X

I think that covers it.



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User currently offlineElevated From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 296 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2571 times:

Quoting 26point2 (Thread starter):
Do airlines assign registration numbers to aircraft dependent on type?


Yes, they do. At my airline N5XX and N6XX and N8XX differentiate between two a/c types and brand new deliveries starting from a specific year. From the outside the average spotter wouldn't know the subtle differences and from an operational standpoint, they do vary on the inside configuration-wise to working crew. For one specific type of a/c we have 3 different galley configurations...the new-old, second-hand, and the brand new, updated version.


User currently offlinebrains From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2501 times:

I'm pretty sure UPS assigns tail numbers based on fleet type.

A300: N1XXUP
MD11: N2XXUP
763: N3XXUP
752: N4XXUP
744: N5XXUP

From what I've observed I havent seen any a/c that dont fit into this system.



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User currently offlineFRAIAD From Germany, joined Feb 2011, 64 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2434 times:

LH designates specific regs to certain aircraft types, too. As far as I can identify it, Lufthansa mainline looks like this:

D-AIM - Airbus 380
D-AIK - Airbus A330-300
D-AIF and D-AIG - Airbus 340-300
D-AIH - Airbus 340-600
D-AIR - Airbus A321-100
D-AIS and D-AID - Airbus 321-200
D-AIP, D-AIQ and D-AIZ - Airbus 320-200
D-AIL and D-AIB - Airbus 319-100
D-ABT and D-ABV - Boeing 747-400
D-ABE, D-ABX and D-ABW - Boeing 737-300
D-ABI and D-ABJ - Boeing 737-500

So, in general, D-AI for Airbus and D-AB for Boeing.


User currently offlinecpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 38
Reply 13, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2378 times:

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 9):
9V-SK* are A380s.

My error - I do know that. Sorry. But you get the meaning anyhow.


User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3307 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2311 times:
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Swiss International Airlines:

HB-JM* - Airbus A340-313X
HB-JH* - Airbus A330-313X
HB-IQ* - Airbus A330-223
HB-IO* - Airbus A321
HB-IJ* - Airbus A320
HB-IP* - Airbus A319
HB-IX* - Avro RJ 85/100

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User currently offlinekl5147 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 327 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2178 times:

KLM usually has registrationblocks for certain types of a/c
PH-BV* - Boeing 777-306
PH-BQ* - Boeing 777-206
PH-BF* - Boeing 747-406
PH-CK* - Boeing 747-406F
PH-BD* and PH-BT* and PH-BP* - Boeing 737-300/400
PH-BX* and PH-BC*- Boeing 737-800/900
PH-BG* - Boeing 737-700
PH-AO* - Airbus A330-200
PH-KC* - MD11
Like Lufthansa it seems the (PH-)B** is for Boeing (Excpetion the 747-frighters) and (PH-)A** is for Airbus

For KLM Cityhopper it's more or less the same
PH-EZ* - Embraer ERJ-190AR
PH-KZ - Fokker 70
PH-KL* and PH-OF* Fokker 100
ofcourse there is always chance for some "odd-ball" regi's



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User currently offlineoly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6741 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2157 times:

BA had their EMB145s registered G-EMB? and BMI had theirs G-RJX?


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User currently offlineL1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1674 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2127 times:
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sancho 99504:
Do they really give the aircraft registration on the screen? I have never seen that. I think it's a great idea, because on many of my flights I can't see the registration or nose number due to the way the airplane's parked. Also, If it's at night, or if there are no windows at the gate, as at some gates at ATL.

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User currently offlinesancho99504 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2029 times:

Quoting L1011 (Reply 17):

Only out on the ramp, and AFAIK, its only PHX, but thats the only place I worked for HP at.



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