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How Are Cockpits Cleaned?  
User currently offlinebristolflyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2270 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 5163 times:

I'm sire they get their fair share of dust and grime from dirty fingers etc - how are they cleaned? I can't envisage a regular cleaning person being allowed in there with a damp cloth. FYI I'm talking about screens/switch panels etc.


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User currently offlineoly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6604 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5099 times:

Things might have changed, but it's (or was) an engineer's job

http://www.pprune.org/archive/index.php/t-10821.html

And there are appropriate cleaning products

http://www.alglas.com/



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User currently offlineKingairTA From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 458 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 5053 times:

Here's what we do with Navy C-130s and C-12s.

Window cleaner for the glass, stiff painbrush for getting all the dust and stuff off the panels and a vacuum for the floors.


User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2848 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 4980 times:

For the DU's, Tech Ops and Flight Crews are provided with EFIS wipes to clean the screens. Info on those here:

http://www.zipchem.com/products/product_detail.aspx?id=MTA1

(I typically carry a couple of these in my laptop bag too so I can clean my screen...I get lots of smudges LOL)



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User currently offlineKingFriday013 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1294 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 4868 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 3):
For the DU's, Tech Ops and Flight Crews are provided with EFIS wipes to clean the screens. Info on those here:

http://www.zipchem.com/products/product_detail.aspx?id=MTA1

(I typically carry a couple of these in my laptop bag too so I can clean my screen...I get lots of smudges LOL)

Very interesting! Are those for sale to the public as well? I use a tablet computer so my screen gets dirty very quickly; I could see these being very useful to carry around.

-J.



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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2848 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 4858 times:

Quoting KingFriday013 (Reply 4):
Very interesting! Are those for sale to the public as well? I use a tablet computer so my screen gets dirty very quickly; I could see these being very useful to carry around.

I don't see why you wouldn't be able to procure them. If I remember correctly from my "Stores" days, they come in quite a large case (for the pre-packed wet/dry towel combo...the cleaning product is also available in bottles which is a different story). The wet towel does dry out over time. Not sure how much it would cost to procure a small amount (1 case) at a time. I think the average cost is ~$60/case.

There is some interesting feedback on this site for tablet cleaning wipes:

http://www.gadgetrivia.com/8244-best...aning_wipe_notion_ink_adam_tablets



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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8900 posts, RR: 76
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4765 times:
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And sometimes the guy/ girl from cleaning enter the cockpit with his vaccum cleaner and removes all the stuff on the floor 

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User currently offlineN901WA From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 428 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4752 times:

I know at Delta, The AMT's use to clean the Flight deck, but after we did the overnight work. As we got leaner we ended up cleaning the Flight deck less and less. So now they have a Cabin AMT's and ASM's that clean and fix the Cabin and Flight Deck at certain Line Stations and in ATL. They do a great job too. The first time I saw them replace the carpet in the Flight deck, I swore the carpet was the OEM and was as thin as a sheet of paper  

User currently offlineDashTrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1439 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4527 times:

Never worked for an airline that cleaned up there. Most of the time we did it.

User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4521 times:

Cleaning up the flight station was he job of the "Flight Engineer". Now that they are gone, you can't expect the drivers to actually do manual labor, so it more than likely just doesn't get done.  

User currently offlinePGNCS From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 2756 posts, RR: 45
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4435 times:

Quoting 474218 (Reply 9):
Cleaning up the flight station was he job of the "Flight Engineer". Now that they are gone, you can't expect the drivers to actually do manual labor, so it more than likely just doesn't get done.

Oh, what are you talking about? The most important FO preflight duty is getting us a trashbag!  


User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8900 posts, RR: 76
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4433 times:
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Quoting PGNCS (Reply 10):
The most important FO preflight duty is getting us a trashbag!

   Indeed. Unless your airplane is equiped with a trash, like on the 744  Simply awesome airplane 

wilco737
  



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User currently offlinevc10 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1397 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4381 times:

Quoting 474218 (Reply 9):
Cleaning up the flight station was he job of the "Flight Engineer". Now that they are gone, you can't expect the drivers to actually do manual labor, so it more than likely just doesn't get done.

Not in any airline that I worked for , instead everybody picked up a sick bag and put their rubbish in them. During flight a damp flannel was used by crew members to clean old round dials and dirty panels

Now back in the days of Navigators with periscope sextant mounts, one of the crew realized that the opening for the sextant was the same size as a vacuum cleaner pipe, so on the next trip he brought a pipe with him and during the descent when the diff pressure had reduced somewhat, he connected the pipe to the sextant mount, opened the valve and he had a very good vacuum cleaner with which he cleaned the flight deck and all the dust went overboard   

Now as the story goes it was all OK and considered quite a good idea until it was tried with too much diff pressure and apparently the rubber liner on the inside of the tube was sucked out and flapped about on the outside skin of the aircraft.
The solution was to get rid of Navigators and you all thought they went because INS had come along   

littlevc10


User currently offlinephunc From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4211 times:

We used to have glass cleaner wipes but now, nothing! Alot of crew bring their own wet wipes in (KFC branded) or they'll use a "hot towel" from the cabin. I know one chap carries a paint brush with him and brushes down the MCDU and all the surfaces. (just moves the dust around)

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31573 posts, RR: 57
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3938 times:

Out here its Mx that handles cleaning of the flight deck too.
Its normally Vacuum cleaned under Mx supervision & then a Disinfectant is applied with cheesecloth over the Instruments & controls.
regds
MEL.



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User currently offlinephunc From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3736 times:

Probably shouldn't say this but I've been told the best way to clean a flight deck of all dust etc...is to have a rapid decompression up in the cruise. Not ideal but I'm certain it'l clean the dirt out of those heard to reach areas.

User currently offline413X3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1983 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3658 times:

Quoting 474218 (Reply 9):
Now that they are gone, you can't expect the drivers to actually do manual labor, so it more than likely just doesn't get done.

You sure about that?


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User currently offlineKingairTA From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 458 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3491 times:

Quoting vc10 (Reply 12):
Now back in the days of Navigators with periscope sextant mounts, one of the crew realized that the opening for the sextant was the same size as a vacuum cleaner pipe, so on the next trip he brought a pipe with him and during the descent when the diff pressure had reduced somewhat, he connected the pipe to the sextant mount, opened the valve and he had a very good vacuum cleaner with which he cleaned the flight deck and all the dust went overboard

In our Herc's we had a hose that would slip onto an overboard vent. We used the differential pressure to vacuum while in flight. The hose had a nice container in it to catch the larger stuff so only the dust went overboard.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31573 posts, RR: 57
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3334 times:

Quoting phunc (Reply 15):
Not ideal but I'm certain it'l clean the dirt out of those heard to reach areas.

Considering the problems associatated with this action thereafter its not a wise method.
regds
MEL.



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User currently offlinebuckfifty From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1316 posts, RR: 20
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 10 hours ago) and read 3156 times:

On one flight I did years ago, one of the RMP's failed, necessitating a replacement. When it was removed, we peered down the hole...

...besides the dust, bread crumbs and cobwebs, we managed to see a few dead cockroaches. Small ones at least.

Nevermind the stuff that goes on in the cabin, I have many many stories pertaining to that...


User currently offlineloggat From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 666 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 3106 times:

I'm pretty sure ours might get cleaned on C checks. That's the impression I get every time I get into one of planes. Pilots are slobs, but we also don't have the time and tools to clean the floors and seat cushions.


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31573 posts, RR: 57
Reply 21, posted (3 years 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3005 times:

Quoting buckfifty (Reply 19):

Nevermind the stuff that goes on in the cabin, I have many many stories pertaining to that...

Discovering Gold rings,chains,cellphone are some of the interesting discoveries......Including a Bucking bar once.  
Hopefully the returned items reached the rightfull owners.
regds
MEL.



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User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4843 posts, RR: 19
Reply 22, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2587 times:

Nothing like getting into your seat and finding that the control column and armrests feel like somebody just finished a KFC dinner and wiped their hands on them. Doesn't anybody wash their hands after eating these days?


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User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3825 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2583 times:

A not too practical way but maybe effective is sudden decompression.


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