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User currently offlinedxing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 9 months 13 hours ago) and read 2440 times:

Part of planning a flight though Polish airspace is having to dig your way through all the airlines and air transportation companies that are not allowed to overfly Poland due to one reason or another but this one caught my attention:

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWeb/notamRetrievalByICAOAction.do?method=displayByICAOs

B1281/11 - PERMISSIONS FOR ENTRY INTO POLISH AIRSPACE WILL NOT BE GRANTED
FOR
THE FOLLOWING AIR CARRIER:
AIRTRAN AIRWAYS INC -/TRS/- UNITED STATES
DUE TO UNFULFILLED CONDITIONS DESCRIBED IN AIP POLAND GEN 4.2. 09 MAR 00:00
2011 UNTIL 09 JUN 23:59 2011 ESTIMATED. CREATED: 07 MAR 11:39 2011

Perhaps a new international destination is in the works??? Or are they just leasing an aircraft?

How about you? Seen any strange ones lately?

[Edited 2011-03-23 14:39:00]

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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21855 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 12 hours ago) and read 2407 times:

Quoting dxing (Thread starter):
Perhaps a new international destination is in the works???

Not anymore it's not, I suppose.

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 11 hours ago) and read 2378 times:

AIP POLAND GEN 4.2 (PDF File) deals with air navigation charges. Has AirTran done any military charters?

A Google search turns up a lot of aircraft operators have run afoul of this provision.


User currently offlinezeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9229 posts, RR: 76
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 11 hours ago) and read 2372 times:

Quoting dxing (Thread starter):

Perhaps a new international destination is in the works??? Or are they just leasing an aircraft?

It is for outstanding parking and passenger charges, the have a long list of airlines on the list.



We are addicted to our thoughts. We cannot change anything if we cannot change our thinking – Santosh Kalwar
User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20334 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 9 hours ago) and read 2333 times:

Quoting zeke (Reply 3):

It is for outstanding parking and passenger charges, the have a long list of airlines on the list.

When has AirTran ever come within 1000nm of the Polish border?


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21855 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 8 hours ago) and read 2299 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):
When has AirTran ever come within 1000nm of the Polish border?

The only situation I can imagine when they'd have come within 3000nm (never mind 1000nm) would be if the A320s they used for a while came from a European operator, and they were picked up and flown through Polish airspace on their way to the US.

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlinedxing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 8 hours ago) and read 2290 times:

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 2):
A Google search turns up a lot of aircraft operators have run afoul of this provision.

Who has to use google? The actual notams are there and available to the public. Also why I wrote that digging through their notams is onerous due to all the airlines, each with their own notam, who are not allowed to overfly Poland for one reason or another.

Quoting zeke (Reply 3):
It is for outstanding parking and passenger charges, the have a long list of airlines on the list.

When has AirTran ever scheduled service in to or out of Poland?

Quoting Mir (Reply 5):
would be if the A320s they used for a while came from a European operator,

The notam is recent and I've never seen it for them before this.


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