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Question About Extra Flight Crew On Long Flights  
User currently offlinedeterminist From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2010, 21 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5867 times:

Please redirect me or delete if this has been discussed to death before.

I am just curious to know how long a flight has to be before it requires an extra pilot on the flight deck to cover rest periods.

Thanks in advance for any replies


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User currently offlineHAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2605 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5806 times:

In the USA, any flight scheduled to be over 8 hours requires one extra pilot, and more than 12 hours requires a fourth pilot. Of course all this may change depending on how the new flight time/duty time rules play out this summer.


One smooth landing is skill. Two in a row is luck. Three in a row and someone is lying.
User currently offlineB727LVR From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 630 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5712 times:


Do you have a link or any info on the new proposed limitations?

I'm like a kid in a candy store when it comes to planes!
User currently offlinephunc From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 176 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5121 times:

Also depends on time zone changes and what time you report for duty etc...As above, FAA requires three crew for flights +8 hours but our crew have done 11 hour flights with just the two of them.

Have a look at the CAA CAP371 document. Bit of bed time / toilet reading for you:


User currently offlineGRZ-AIR From Austria, joined Apr 2001, 574 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5013 times:

Europe (EASA/EU OPS) has a max duty time of 13 hours (extendable in case of WX/Mechanical delays for another hour at Captains discretion). In case of 3 pilots (augmented flight crew) the max duty time increases to 18 hours, whereby 12 hours stick time may not be exceeded.

brgds GA

When I joined A.net it was still free, haha ;).
User currently offlinedeterminist From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2010, 21 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4992 times:

Thanks for the replies. I'll get on with the toilet reading...

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