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Is It Possible To Trade Fuel Tanks For Cargo Bins?  
User currently offlinec5load From United States of America, joined exactly 6 years ago today! , 917 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4738 times:

When an airline orders an airframe just for the capacity rather than the range (DL and the 764), is it possible to have the manufacturer put in an extra cargo bin where the ER fuel tank would go. Now, I realize that DL uses the range of the 764 now, but they originally ordered it for domestic runs, so they would not have needed the extra tanks if they had kept it domestic.


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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4732 times:

Yes... USAirways did that with their 737's......


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User currently offlinetb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1597 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4692 times:

You can put removable aux tanks in the forward and aft bellies on the 727 to get extended range as well.


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User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 79
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4688 times:

Quoting c5load (Thread starter):
When an airline orders an airframe just for the capacity rather than the range (DL and the 764), is it possible to have the manufacturer put in an extra cargo bin where the ER fuel tank would go

Generally no...on most ER models the extra tankage is either in the horizontal tail or an expanded center wing tank. In either case, you can't store baggage in the wing box or horizontal tail.

If you have an LR model (or some 737's) that have auxiliary fuel tanks in the cargo hold, you can remove those tanks to recover cargo space if you don't need them.

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):

Yes... USAirways did that with their 737's......

Are we talking removal of auxiliary tanks, or actually cutting into the normal tank system?

Tom.


User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4577 times:

Marshall Aerospace has built and installed auxiliary fuel tanks in the cargo compartments of for several Boeing aircraft, including the the 747 and the 777. Additionally, they installed auxiliary tanks to a number of DL MD-11's and all the the Lockheed L-1011 tanker/tanker freighters operated by the RAF.

Marshall is currently working on auxiliary tanks for the Boeing P-8 which is a modified 737-800.


User currently offlinefuelfool From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 22 hours ago) and read 4049 times:

There are (were?) some DC-9s that had an Fore and Aft Aux tanks, in addition to wing and center tanks.


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User currently offlineexFWAOONW From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3766 times:

Quoting fuelfool (Reply 5):
There are (were?) some DC-9s that had an Fore and Aft Aux tanks, in addition to wing and center tanks.

RC/NW had a couple DC9-30s with aux tanks in bin #2 (aft of the fwd cargo door). There was just cargo netting separating it from the rest of the bin as I recall.



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