web500sjc From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 589 posts, RR: 0 Posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3715 times:
Yesterday on my delta connection flight, during the saftey announcements, there was an announcement about the cockpit being at the front of the aircraft.
KPWMSpotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 334 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3707 times:
I've often heard the flight deck location announced as a warning similar to "...the cockpit door at the front of the aircraft has been closed, it is a federal offense to attempt to gain entry into the flight deck..."
It makes sense to point out, especially in aircraft with lavatories in the front of the aircraft. I can imagine that there have been a few past instances of confused passengers tugging at the cockpit door latch thinking it was the bathroom door. The announcement is probably intended to prevent that sort of situation from happening as often.
CosmicCruiser From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2222 posts, RR: 16 Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3610 times:
Quoting SAAFNAV (Reply 2): When last did you see an aircraft with the cockpit in the tail?
ThePinnacleKid From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 682 posts, RR: 9 Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3563 times:
Quoting SAAFNAV (Reply 2): When last did you see an aircraft with the cockpit in the tail?
As crazy and stupid as it sounds... and while most people see up front as they board.. in flight, you'ld be surprised how many people still go looking for the lav at the front and a door is a door is a door to them.. thankfully they usually don't try the cabin door thanks to the window.. but they do try to use our cockpit door equally with the closet door... these announcements are simply to remind them not to pull on it... same reason at my airline they put huge placards that say "Authorized Personnel Only" on our door and forgo the verbal announcement about our location...
People aren't always paying attention, walk to the front, and try to open the door. As stated above, a door is a door. On some regional aircraft, where the lav door and cockpit door are right beside each other (lav to the left obviously), there is a sign that says the usual "Authorized Personnel Only" then, below it, says "Lavatory" with an arrow pointing to that door. I have seen passengers almost go for the cockpit door, pause, and then try the correct door.
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RamblinMan From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 1083 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3405 times:
Well when you're on a Caravan they have to let you know the cockpit officially begins at the pilot's seatback because there's no actual partition.
ThirtyEcho From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 1635 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3205 times:
Quoting ThePinnacleKid (Reply 4):
As crazy and stupid as it sounds... and while most people see up front as they board.. in flight, you'ld be surprised how many people still go looking for the lav at the front and a door is a door is a door to them.. thankfully they usually don't try the cabin door thanks to the window.. but they do try to use our cockpit door equally with the closet door... these announcements are simply to remind them not to pull on it... same reason at my airline they put huge placards that say "Authorized Personnel Only" on our door and forgo the verbal announcement about our location...
How sad is it that you have to think for most people. And not only aviation...
The average guy just won't give one second to think something through, but they will believe any random false fact.
CitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2249 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2895 times:
In the same announcement they have to explain to the same passengers how to operate a seat belt.
flashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2864 posts, RR: 7 Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2841 times:
When I've heard "the cockpit is at the front of the plane", it's generally been followed by something like "no queue can form for the lavatory at the front of the aircraft", i.e. justifying why you might be asked to sit down even though you really have to pee.