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People Need To Know Where The Cockpit Is?  
User currently offlineweb500sjc From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 692 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4389 times:

Yesterday on my delta connection flight, during the saftey announcements, there was an announcement about the cockpit being at the front of the aircraft.

Any reason for this? (aircraft was a e145)


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User currently offlineKPWMSpotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 412 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4381 times:

I've often heard the flight deck location announced as a warning similar to "...the cockpit door at the front of the aircraft has been closed, it is a federal offense to attempt to gain entry into the flight deck..."

It makes sense to point out, especially in aircraft with lavatories in the front of the aircraft. I can imagine that there have been a few past instances of confused passengers tugging at the cockpit door latch thinking it was the bathroom door. The announcement is probably intended to prevent that sort of situation from happening as often.



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User currently offlineSAAFNAV From South Africa, joined Mar 2010, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4304 times:

When last did you see an aircraft with the cockpit in the tail?


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User currently offlineCosmicCruiser From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2254 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4284 times:

Quoting SAAFNAV (Reply 2):
When last did you see an aircraft with the cockpit in the tail?

The GeeBee.... 


User currently offlineThePinnacleKid From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 708 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Quoting SAAFNAV (Reply 2):
When last did you see an aircraft with the cockpit in the tail?

As crazy and stupid as it sounds... and while most people see up front as they board.. in flight, you'ld be surprised how many people still go looking for the lav at the front and a door is a door is a door to them.. thankfully they usually don't try the cabin door thanks to the window.. but they do try to use our cockpit door equally with the closet door... these announcements are simply to remind them not to pull on it... same reason at my airline they put huge placards that say "Authorized Personnel Only" on our door and forgo the verbal announcement about our location...



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User currently offlineYYZRWY23 From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4212 times:

Quoting web500sjc (Thread starter):
Any reason for this? (aircraft was a e145)

People aren't always paying attention, walk to the front, and try to open the door. As stated above, a door is a door. On some regional aircraft, where the lav door and cockpit door are right beside each other (lav to the left obviously), there is a sign that says the usual "Authorized Personnel Only" then, below it, says "Lavatory" with an arrow pointing to that door. I have seen passengers almost go for the cockpit door, pause, and then try the correct door.

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User currently offlinedh106 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 623 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4112 times:
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Quoting SAAFNAV (Reply 2):
When last did you see an aircraft with the cockpit in the tail?

Thunderbirds 'Fireflash' had it's cockpit in the fin  
Okay, so it aint real......



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User currently offlineRamblinMan From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 1138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4079 times:

Well when you're on a Caravan they have to let you know the cockpit officially begins at the pilot's seatback because there's no actual partition.

User currently offlineThirtyEcho From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 1639 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3879 times:

This helps the tail gunner know which way to go.

User currently offlineSAAFNAV From South Africa, joined Mar 2010, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3800 times:

Quoting CosmicCruiser (Reply 3):
The GeeBee....

Good one!

Quoting ThePinnacleKid (Reply 4):

As crazy and stupid as it sounds... and while most people see up front as they board.. in flight, you'ld be surprised how many people still go looking for the lav at the front and a door is a door is a door to them.. thankfully they usually don't try the cabin door thanks to the window.. but they do try to use our cockpit door equally with the closet door... these announcements are simply to remind them not to pull on it... same reason at my airline they put huge placards that say "Authorized Personnel Only" on our door and forgo the verbal announcement about our location...

How sad is it that you have to think for most people. And not only aviation...
The average guy just won't give one second to think something through, but they will believe any random false fact.



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User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2368 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3569 times:

In the same announcement they have to explain to the same passengers how to operate a seat belt.


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User currently offlineflashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2896 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3515 times:
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When I've heard "the cockpit is at the front of the plane", it's generally been followed by something like "no queue can form for the lavatory at the front of the aircraft", i.e. justifying why you might be asked to sit down even though you really have to pee.  

User currently offlineTimePilot From Switzerland, joined Sep 2005, 296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3483 times:

Didn't anyone see the Are You Being Served movie where Mr. Grainger mistakenly goes into the cockpit instead of the bathroom?

User currently offlinetransaeroyyz From Canada, joined Dec 2010, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3250 times:

Rember Kramer falling into the cockpit, last episode of Seinfeld, tried to google it, can't believe its not there.

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