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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5742 posts, RR: 4
Posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5252 times:

One of my friends, a good looking, well built guy with good hair too, wasnt even called for a preliminary interview when he applied for a stewards job in Emirates, which I found strange, as they were seeking crew through ads in local dailies, so its not like he just sent them an application when they didnt need to hire, what is the criteria for crew selection? he met their reuirements in all aspects besides looks too, yet he wasnt called. Sometime later I flew EK and saw rather ordinary looking males from my country/region working the flights, what gives?

This went unanswered in another topic maybe it didnt belong in so a seprate post.

[Edited 2011-05-04 02:18:05]

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User currently offlinecallbell From Germany, joined Mar 2008, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5243 times:

Airlines usually look for previous customer experience, an interest in the job, someone who is friendly and willing to work the long unsociable hours that come with the job. . How someone looks is less important and is usually addressed in training. "Good looks" are a subjective thing and not a requirement.

User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5742 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5204 times:

He met all of their needs and was in customer service in bank when he applied, I have read bout prison wardens working for EK on this forum.

User currently offlineJackbr From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 666 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5186 times:

Emirates is notoriously difficult to get into. He's one of MANY suitable applicants who were unsuccessful.

Emirates also prefers women. They usually only take 1 or 2 men for each recruitment class I believe.


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5742 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5118 times:

Quoting Jackbr (Reply 3):
. He's one of MANY suitable applicants who were unsuccessful.


If he'd been called you could say that, also bsed on his looks alone he could've been interviewed just once.

But then you have to keep trying too, people have got in after multiple attempts, he only tried once.

[Edited 2011-05-04 04:06:03]

User currently offlinegt4ezy From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 1789 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5047 times:

He may have met the criteria but that doesn't guarantee you an interview......in any job. How did he come across on the application? Whilst I am sure EK are one of the few airlines in the world today who take looks into account, that doesn't mean automatic success and if his application wasn't up to scratch then he clearly wasn't destined to get to the assessment day/interview stage. Also, cabin crew is in general a fairly difficult job to get into. Even for a commuter/charter/low cost airline they are inundated with applications, it's a very popular job that pays relatively well across the board. Consequently, the airlines are in a position where they can be very picky. Perhaps there was one, pretty minor let down on his application that ultimately led to him not being invited to an assessment day.

Tell him to keep trying and remember, EK isn't the be all and end all. I believe it's very hard work as far as long haul flying goes.



Proud to fly from Manchester!
User currently offlineJackbr From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 666 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5047 times:

They get an absolutely enormous amount of applications - way up in the tens of thousands. Many people consider the first hurdle just GETTING an interview, not passing it.

I suggest he try with another airline. If he's determined to fly in the Mid East, he could try Emirates again, or perhaps Etihad, Qatar etc - but they all have the same extremely high standards and a level of applications that far, far, far outweigh positions.


User currently offlinem11stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4860 times:

I'm not sure where your friend is from but there are some regional airlines in the United States that will hire almost anyone who meets the criteria. Also, your friend might consider getting another position in the company such as a Customer Service Agent and then apply for a transfer to the cabin crew position.


My opinions, statements, etc. are my own and do not have any association with those of any employer.
User currently onlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6330 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4850 times:

Quoting 777way (Thread starter):
a good looking, well built guy with good hair too, wasnt even called for a preliminary interview when he applied for a stewards job in Emirates

Sounds like he should have applied for the Jersey Shore job instead.

Quoting 777way (Reply 4):
He may have met the criteria but that doesn't guarantee you an interview......in any job

  ...as mentioned these airlines get a TON of people who want the jobs, and I bet a TON of them fit the criteria too. In that case, you just can't interview everyone...so it may come down to little things that stand out in an application - poor grammar, misspelled words. Also, he could very well have been an excellent candidate that just fell in to an especially strong group of applicants by sheer bad luck.


User currently offlineanstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4850 times:

Quoting 777way (Thread starter):
One of my friends, a good looking, well built guy with good hair too, wasnt even called for a preliminary interview when he applied for a stewards job in Emirates,

I dont think you need to be good looking and well built to work for Emirates.

However - you do need a great record of customer servi e experience and a well put together application to get through the first phase!


User currently offlinegoblin211 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 1209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4831 times:

In the US we hire people based on how qualified they are and how well the interview goes. Is it possible your friend got a bad vibe from the interviewer? Maybe they had someone else in mind and had to keep interviewing? there are m,any factors as to why your friend din't get the job.
Edit: He'll live.



From the airport with love
User currently offlinebmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1814 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day ago) and read 4683 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 4):
based on his looks alone he could've been interviewed just once.

Jeez, looks are not everything! Looks certainly won't help you when you're evacuating an aircraft or dealing with an irate passenger.


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5742 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 22 hours ago) and read 4623 times:

Normally good looking, well built people are a plus for such jobs and considred first even if they messed up somewhere or dont have perfect credentils, its a lets see maybe theres potential kind of situation, they are given chance by meeting in person, it changes perceptions.

User currently onlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6330 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 22 hours ago) and read 4589 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 12):
Normally good looking, well built people are a plus for such jobs and considred first even if they messed up somewhere or dont have perfect credentils

I just don't agree with this...I think you have the wrong notion of Emirates' hiring process. Yes, they probably care more about looks than most airlines in the world (reading this, AA/UA/DL?), but that doesn't mean it is all that matters, or even the most important thing.


User currently offlinesq_ek_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1635 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 22 hours ago) and read 4546 times:

Quoting sw733 (Reply 13):
Quoting 777way (Reply 12):
Normally good looking, well built people are a plus for such jobs and considred first even if they messed up somewhere or dont have perfect credentils

I just don't agree with this...I think you have the wrong notion of Emirates' hiring process. Yes, they probably care more about looks than most airlines in the world (reading this, AA/UA/DL?), but that doesn't mean it is all that matters, or even the most important thing.

         Totally true - while EK does take into account looks more than some other airlines, it is by no means the primary criteria. It would be a really daft hiring checklist if good looks automatically garnered an interview. Especially for an airline the size of EK and the massive hiring drives our recruitment teams go on.



Keep Discovering
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5742 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 21 hours ago) and read 4517 times:

Most people from sub-continent are not good looking, while its not relevnt per se, I think it would matter more when hiring specifically from countries of the region, even from amongst thousands you will only find hadfull of lookers, I find it hrd to believe that those would not be given preference despite lacking somewhere in credentials, more so since sub-continentls constitute a minority compred to ones being hired from others regions of the world who my be good looking etc. for every third applicant.

User currently offlineflyglobal From Germany, joined Mar 2008, 587 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 21 hours ago) and read 4501 times:

Also you need to take into account that even if there are criteria, there is a certain mix of people of different background, nations, skin color, special languages they want to have for dedicated routes, which will not be described in the general 'base' criteria. Your friend may just be unlucky, that there may has been just a 1:100 chance for an interview, but the other 'average' person in looks you noticed would have just had that single criteria that they still had needs for.

Therefore, when the basics are met: Just next time, next chance some time later.

regards

Flyglobal


User currently offlineLufthansa411 From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 692 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 12 hours ago) and read 4413 times:

Take it from someone who had to screen applicants at a major firm: There are usually several levels and little communication between different sections of the hiring process at large firms. The first 1-2 are usually interns that are looking for things that the employer wouldn't want, as opposed to what it would want- violent criminal records, improperly filled out forms, etc. It is low level grunt work. They are not looking at the applicant or credentials (unless requirements are missing) their job is to pull out everyone that is disqualified for one reason or another. Once this step is completed, it continues moving up to higher and higher people.

My guess is that if he wasn't even granted a preliminary interview he either had something that disqualified him on the application, or the next level up found a bunch of people much more qualified and decided not to bother with him.



Nothing in life is to be feared; it is only to be understood.
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5742 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (3 years 4 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4290 times:

Why is this in Tech/Ops?

User currently offlineYokoTsuno From Singapore, joined Feb 2011, 348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 4 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4268 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 18):
Why is this in Tech/Ops?
That's simple. To operate an airline you need stewards and stewardesses   .

Quoting sw733 (Reply 13):
I just don't agree with this...I think you have the wrong notion of Emirates' hiring process
True. I am a frequent flyer with Emirates and can confirm that they are not all hunks and babes. I think with the right background even I could get in . Some are though.


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