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User currently offlineDavid B. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5
Posted (13 years 10 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1845 times:

How does a B-17 back up? Someone post this question as a respones to my post on "Ground Steering".  Acting devilish
The B-17 doesn't have reverse thrusters so how do they back up? Thanks.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
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User currently offlineCessnapimp From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1320 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (13 years 10 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1783 times:

The airplane's tailwheel is attached to a towbar and pulled back by a mule.

User currently offlineRalgha From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 1614 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (13 years 10 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

The pilot blows real hard.  Big thumbs up

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User currently offlineTwotterwrench From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1763 times:

that was me and it's for real. I've seen it done. Hint: you are going to need more than two engines to do it. AVT007 had pretty much the right idea when i posted the question previously, except the b-17 has a tailwheel and not a nosewheel. Hold your hand out in front of you and act out what would happen under various uses of differential thrust and braking.

User currently offlineJetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 10 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1734 times:

Simple, you lock the brake and runup the two engines on that side of the airplane. The wing with the runup engines will pivot and advance, forcing the other wing to retreat. The procedure is reversed and the B-17 is able to "walk" itself backwards. Great question! Even greater airplane!!!

User currently offlineTwotterwrench From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 10 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1704 times:

Exactly right Jetguy. Pat on the back for you. It is very cool to watch, as it makes a lot of noise and kicks up a lot of dust. Saw the Memphis Belle (the one made up for the movie) do it at Spokane Felts Field when they were doing the promo tour for the movie.

User currently offlineTEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 10 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1664 times:

I got the chance to go into that B-17 that was used in the Memphis Belle movie. It is very cramped in that machine, makes you wonder how crews bailed out of those things when they were hit over enemy lines.

User currently offlineJetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 10 months 4 days ago) and read 1654 times:

I've had the opportunity on several occassions to go over nearly every square inch of 2 or 3 different B-17's. When I hit the lottery, one of the first things that I will do is figure out a way to get a B-17 type rating. It has been a dream of mine to fly one for as long as I can remember. One day, I would love to start a WWII aircraft museam and a B-17 would be the center piece. I find it a very moving experience when I contemplate what those kids who crew them went through. Not only were they cramped, but they were also freezing cold. I can't even imagine what it would have been like sitting in one of those things on a combat mission. That aluminum skin wouldn't even slow down a machine gun bullet or piece of flak. It would be hard to imagine a worse way or place to die. We owe a lot to the B-17 and to the young crews that flew them.

User currently offlineBuzz From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 697 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (13 years 10 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1631 times:

HI David B. , Buzz here. You had commented abotu backing up a B-17. I guess it can be done, but it's hard on the tires and prop tips.
If you have a DC-3 and nose up to the gas pumps, get 6 or 7 husky freinds and push on the top half of the main gear tires. You can roll a DC-3 back far enough to start engines and turn about.
Reversing props are a feature on post- WW2 airplanes. Normally, a DC-3, or B-17 don't need brakes on landing, only to slow down a bit to make taxiway turnoffs, and for engine starts / Mag checks. Don't use them like thrust reversers, you have to fly tailwheel airplanes to a stop.
Buzz Fuselsausage: Line Mechanic by night, DC-3 Crew Chief by choice.

User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 10 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1622 times:

Oh for anyone intrested in seeing a B-17 thats in the Daytona Area, there is one in for repairs in KEVB. They also have a T-6, and a DC-3 there also.

At worst, you screw up and die.
User currently offlineTEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1573 times:

I went to that air museum in Kissimmee, FL this past May and saw that B-17 that is being restored to it's original configuration. They have another one in that same hanger that is in pieces that will be restored next that was damaged by a hurricane a few years ago.

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