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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4015 times:



Noticed a Ground support equipment used by Fedex looked like a Tow bar with heavy weights on Two of the Four sides.
Anyone aware of its usage.


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User currently offlineKLASM83 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 633 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3935 times:

I work with the FedEx in GFK, and noticed they indeed used this as a tow bar for pushback on their aircraft. I always believed it was because one would need traction/downward force in the snow/pushing back a heavy airplane.

The more I think about it, they could also connect it to the nose gear during loading and use it to help prevent the plane from tipping back.

It is a funny looking thing, isn't it?



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User currently offlinepilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3152 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days ago) and read 3902 times:

Fedex uses a tether on the nose gear to keep the aircraft secured. (there are a few famous pictures out there of a fedex aircraft on it's tail while loading). I've seen this contraption used when there is not a securing point built into the ramp.


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User currently offlinetristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4068 posts, RR: 33
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3880 times:

Here at ARN Fedex have one of these that they use on the A310.
It is bolted on the nose gear during loading.
It is not used for pushback.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15831 posts, RR: 27
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3870 times:

Quoting pilotpip (Reply 2):
Fedex uses a tether on the nose gear to keep the aircraft secured. (there are a few famous pictures out there of a fedex aircraft on it's tail while loading). I've seen this contraption used when there is not a securing point built into the ramp.

I've heard that the A300s are somewhat sensitive to weight distribution during loading. I've also seen references to airlines (UPS I think) using tail stands for the same purpose.



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3868 times:

Quoting KLASM83 (Reply 1):
they indeed used this as a tow bar for pushback on their aircraft.

Not noticed it being used as pushback out here.

Quoting pilotpip (Reply 2):

Fedex uses a tether on the nose gear to keep the aircraft secured.

Is that the term used/.

Quoting tristarsteve (Reply 3):

Here at ARN Fedex have one of these that they use on the A310.
It is bolted on the nose gear during loading.

Fedex operates MD11 & A310s out here,so bound to be used on them.



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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14139 posts, RR: 63
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3848 times:

The MD-11 is tailheavy on the ground, requiring strict discipline in loading, or it will tip on it´s tail.
UPS solves this problem by adhering strictly to a loading, unloading and fuelling sequence to make sure that the C of G always stays forward of the main landing gear.
LH Cargo uses ballast pallets, which are going to be loaded into the No. 1 position before unloading the rest of the cargo commences.
Fedex had some incidents with MD-11 aircraft sitting on their tails and decided to hook the nose landing gear to a weighted trolley to prevent the aircraft from tipping over.

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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3811 times:

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 6):
Fedex had some incidents with MD-11 aircraft sitting on their tails and decided to hook the nose landing gear to a weighted trolley to prevent the aircraft from tipping over.

Seems to be the most likely reason.But surprisingly personally I've not noticed it being used on the MD11,whenever I've been present there.So is it optional or a company SOP that it be used?.



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User currently offlineKLASM83 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 633 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3758 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 5):
Not noticed it being used as pushback out here.

I was incorrect. That was kind of a WAG on my part. 



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User currently offlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3856 posts, RR: 27
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3666 times:
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on the early 747F's there was a nose tiedown option (a couple of pins) and a hydraulic operated hook that snubbed the gear down.. this looks like a portable nose gear weight that has the same function.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3574 times:

Quoting kanban (Reply 9):
this looks like a portable nose gear weight that has the same function.

Looks more likely to be the case.A sort of heavy weight attatched to the nose to prevent an aft tilt.



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User currently offlinefuelfool From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 22 hours ago) and read 3524 times:

At least at the FX hub I work at, all airplanes have to be tethered before on/offload. The exception is the 727, which has a tailstand. There are some gates that don't have hooks in the ground for the tether, thus the weight cart. The cart is removed before the plane is pushed.


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User currently offlinedhawald3 From India, joined Jun 2011, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 13 hours ago) and read 3478 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 7):
Seems to be the most likely reason.But surprisingly personally I've not noticed it being used on the MD11,whenever I've been present there.So is it optional or a company SOP that it be used?.

Here you can see it being used when the FedEx aircraft used to halt for a long time at Bangalore airport, India.

FedEx MD 11 at BLR


Nose tethering device


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3391 times:

Nice pics.....So it looks like a long halt requirement for Fedex.


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