richiemo From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 224 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3078 times:
I flew PHL to CLT yesterday. I noted 320s and 319s at both airports with IAVE engines. These, therefore, are legacy America West planes. If you see one of these in CLT or PHL, does that mean it has to be arriving from/departing to PHX? Or is Cactus using legacy Amer West planes on routes in and out of PHL and CLT. My understanding was that the legacy Amer West planes would stay hubbed in PHX and legacy US Air hubbed in PHL. I realize that even if that were still the case it's not as cut and dry as that. But have the two airlines really merged operationally?
HAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2568 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3050 times:
The planes don't always go just into or out of the hubs. For example a 'west' plane may go PHX - PHL - SEA - LAS - PHL, and so on. It would be flown by west crews, but obviously with the PHL - SEA segment in there, they don't always fly just the old west routes.
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Nutsaboutplanes From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 507 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2827 times:
Quoting thegman (Reply 3): They are all over the place because now the network is concentrated in the east, and they need the planes.
Probably the most notable example of an "East" aircraft flying a "West" route is the East metal 757 that flies to Hawaii (OGG I think) at certain times of the year. This flight is not currently on the schedule but it has been off and on after schedule changes.
Quoting richiemo (Thread starter): I flew PHL to CLT yesterday. I noted 320s and 319s at both airports with IAVE engines. These, therefore, are legacy America West planes.
One thing to keep in mind is that this will not be true in relatively short order. It is my understanding that future A321 deliveries for the East operation will be equipped with the V2500 engine as opposed to the CFM. As I just noted, that is my understanding but I cant remember where I heard it
I would not be shocked to see all future Airbus NB deliveries arrive with the V2500 engine unless there has already been a CFM engine commitment for the particular frame. I would expect new orders and options to arrive with the V's.
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wn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1068 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2772 times:
Two points, the first being that west crews and planes fly segments such as PHL-LAS/ORD/PDX/PHX/PIT/SAN/SEA/SFO/SMF and CLT-ATL/BOS/DFW/EWR/JFK/LAS/MSP/ORD/PDX/PHX/SAN/SEA/SMF, so you'll see a lot of them in those two east hubs.
The second is that there are east planes being delivered with IAE engines - 536UW thru 540UW currently, and two upcoming deliveries, 543UW and 554UW. So you'll start to see a lot more IAE birds on the east.
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