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User currently offlinebillreid From Netherlands, joined Jun 2006, 1016 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3064 times:

Question: what are the expected delivery times for first and last bags for B757, MD80, B737.
Also: B767, A320, A330 etc.
I realize airport layout is critical.
Is first bag in 35 minutes, last bag 50 minutes reasonable for a B757 when the ramp agents are literally two minutes walk from the inbound bag belt? 20 seconds away on a tug. No other inbound flits occur at the same time.


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User currently offlinecotparampguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3047 times:

In my experience, bag times are not tied to an aircraft type. The company usually has a standard delivery time for all bags. Sometimes, there are hundreds of bags and only 3 guys to download the inbound aircraft. That could be the reason why it took so long to receive your luggage.

User currently offlineexFWAOONW From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2929 times:

It used to depend upon how much US Mail was onboard. The post office waits for no-one, I had a manager once tell me the fine was around $10k for late mail delivery to them. Consequently, many times I would have to drop the mail before the baggage. I'm sure the passengers understood....   


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User currently offlinecontrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2804 times:

Company policy dictats bag times. 15min for the first bag to be dropped and 25 for the last. Thats my airline B6. However, this doesn't always happen. Lots of factors play into it. Main problem is usually how the up city packed the belly. If you have comat, mail and transfer bags in the way of the direct bags, well then your gonna have delays on getting those bags on the belt. Also and this has become a HUGE issue. Wait for it, wait for it.... GATE CHECKS. Ah yes gate checks. Gate checks without a doubt is the most time consumming thing while doing a flight on the ground. Especially when one poor bastard has to do it themselves. Non containerized aircraft of course are gonna take sometime to dump.


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User currently offlinedlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 951 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2741 times:

Quoting billreid (Thread starter):
Is first bag in 35 minutes, last bag 50 minutes reasonable for a B757

Well at delta the first bag should be down 20 minutes and the last bag should out by 35 minutes. What we used to was fill up one cart of bags, then a driver would drive the one cart to baggage claim while the crew would offload the rest of the plane. When the driver returned he would take the rest of the bags to baggage claim. of course this would be done without sorting first class bags. Now we put all first class and transfers in one cart while the rest of the locals go into the other carts and everything will be dropped at once in baggage claim within the 20 minute limit



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User currently offline777ord From United States of America, joined May 2010, 517 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2682 times:

When I worked at ORD at the International terminal the operations were set up that within 8 minutes of the cargo doors opening the first bags were expected on the carousel. Obviously in order of F-J-Connection bags.

We continually were able to get the "cans" to the belt within the time allotted. Mind you, these times were wide body aircraft.

When we worked Mexicana/Aeromexico, it took about 10 minutes since we'd have two in the belly, and 1-2 stacking bags.

When I worked for American Eagle in DBQ, where the carousel is literally 100 feet from the cargo door we'd have the bags on the carousel before all the pax were off the plane  !

So yes, there are shorter times.


User currently offlinewn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1057 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2634 times:

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 4):
What we used to was fill up one cart of bags, then a driver would drive the one cart to baggage claim while the crew would offload the rest of the plane. When the driver returned he would take the rest of the bags to baggage claim. of course this would be done without sorting first class bags.

We used to drop bags this way just to make the delivery time; it was usually on inbounds from other hubs who can never seem to sort locals and connects, so the downloads take forever. This went on for a while until a whole bunch company execs came in from one of those other hubs. All of their bags were priority labeled. As the drop time approached, the local runner took off with what he had picked out of the bag salad. What no one knew was that all of the priority bags had been loaded in the taper, behind all of the other bags. The practice of making multiple drops was discontinued soon thereafter.

[Edited 2011-08-20 00:52:23]


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User currently offlinedlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 951 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2572 times:

that is why that system failed miserably. I am sorry but if I was a pax I would find it annoying seeing people from my flight getting their bags first and then having the belt shut off and wait another 10 minutes for the rest of the bags to come down.


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User currently offlinecontrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2535 times:

The joys of working for a LCC, no first class or business bags. Everyone is first class.   


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User currently offlineexFWAOONW From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2404 times:

Must be nice to have all that help on the ramp where you can spare one to take off with the first loaded bag cart! Too many times in smaller spoke stations, if you had two on the ramp to load and unload a turn, you were overstaffed.    (That's why I look like this now)


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User currently offlineusairways787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 290 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 2275 times:

Quoting exFWAOONW (Reply 9):

I couldn't agree more with that statement. To add to that, if you were already short handed, and had a another flight come in ontop of that flight, those bags became the lessor of the priority, than that airplane coming in. People in most terms have no clue how short airlines work ramps, especially passengers. My airline "IF" we are lucky we have 3 rampers for 4 EMO's and 6 turns. To this day I am truly amazed how we even get it done.



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User currently offlinegenybustrvlr From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2180 times:

There is one operation that I'm aware of where baggage is handled perfectly. United Airlines @ SFO's International Terminal. Without fail, every-time, my priority marked bag beats me to the carousel. It seems like every other airport, priority bags either come out at the same time as all the other bags or are not even segregated.

Also, waiting more than 20 minutes for first bag is unacceptable in any circumstance. If first bag does not hit within 20 minutes of the plane arriving at the gate, the baggage handling operation has failed IMO - no excuses.


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