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User currently offlinesmartt1982 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 225 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3247 times:

Recently I was on a few internal American Airlines flights and I noticed that there was no requirement to have the window blinds open for take off and landing, in the EU were I fly normally this seems to be mandatory. Is this due to different legislation and if so what is the reason for it anyway? my understanding is so the cabin crew can identify an engine on fire or such, is this similar to the lights being dimmed at night for take off and landing also?

Many Thanks
Steve

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User currently offlinebwaflyer From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 689 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3006 times:

at bmi, the only window blinds that must be open for take off and landing are emergency exits.

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17026 posts, RR: 67
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2999 times:

The window blind rules are different in different countries. In the US, no one seems to care. In Asia and Europe sometimes yes and sometimes no.

I think the logic is that in an emergency, the pax will be able to see which wing is fine and which side is on fire. Then their panicked little brains will discard that information and plunge them into the inferno. But I digress...



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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7951 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2960 times:

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 2):
I think the logic is that in an emergency, the pax will be able to see which wing is fine


I think windows provide natural light, and in an emergency a brighter cabin helps to find the exit and not to stumble.



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User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2106 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2897 times:

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 2):
Then their panicked little brains will discard that information and plunge them into the inferno. But I digress...

Thank you Starlionblue, literally lol'ed at that one! Pretty accurate assessment of human nature though, must say.  

I don't recall ever having the shades addressed by the flight attendants at all, not even the emergency exit ones. I have only flown domestic though.

[Edited 2011-08-22 07:19:24]


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User currently offlinejetlagged From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 2546 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2766 times:

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 2):
I think the logic is that in an emergency, the pax will be able to see which wing is fine and which side is on fire. Then their panicked little brains will discard that information and plunge them into the inferno. But I digress...

They also switch off the cabin lights before landing. With the blinds open and the lights out your eyes will become accustomed to ambient light levels. Even if there is no inferno to blunder into, you'd not do too well on the escape slides if your night vision was not optimal.



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User currently offlineb6flyboy From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2538 times:
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There is not a FAA reg requiring window blinds to be up or down. Primary exits such as doors are required to keep their window blinds open, but that is it.

Now some carriers might have a policy that states that window shades have to be open during taxi/takeoff/landing, but that would only be a Company policy. However, if it is a Company policy and written into an operational manual than the carrier would have to enforce it as if it was a FAR.

Hope this helps



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User currently offlinegenybustrvlr From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2506 times:

Airlines in the US actually instruct passengers to lower shades before takeoff for overnight flights, such as transatlantic. Unfortunately, there's always some jack @$$ who insists on opening the shade during the later part of the flight when it's light thereby waking up everyone else nearby.

User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

Quoting genybustrvlr (Reply 7):
Unfortunately, there's always some jack @$$ who insists on opening the shade during the later part of the flight when it's light thereby waking up everyone else nearby.

Yet another advantage of electrochromic window shades...the flight attendants can lock them out so that doesn't happen.

Tom.


User currently offlineCharlieNoble From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2395 times:

Quoting genybustrvlr (Reply 7):
Airlines in the US actually instruct passengers to lower shades before takeoff for overnight flights, such as transatlantic. Unfortunately, there's always some jack @$$ who insists on opening the shade during the later part of the flight when it's light thereby waking up everyone else nearby.

LOL guilty as charged!

And I'm a super courteous person, I just think that if I've paid for my ticket I've got as much right to look at a beautiful sunrise as the guy next to me has to sleep through it. Nobody knows how many they have left, eh?

The difference is that that those who want to sleep have the option of wearing something over their eyes. Those masks are available in every airport and cost nothing compared to an international flight. I do not have the option of employing x-ray vision to see through the window blinds.

So maybe the rest of the people on the plane are wrong for not coming prepared to meet their own needs and depriving me of one of the few joys of air travel? Food for thought.

[Edited 2011-08-24 05:15:20]

User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2433 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2368 times:

Quoting genybustrvlr (Reply 7):
there's always some jack @$$ who insists on opening the shade during the later part of the flight when it's light thereby waking up everyone else nearby.
Quoting CharlieNoble (Reply 9):
The difference is that that those who want to sleep have the option of wearing something over their eyes.

Agreed. Bring your eyeshades, and everyone gets what they want.



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