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Delta MD-88 Nose Gear Skidding  
User currently offlineArtc From Mexico, joined Jan 2011, 14 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5209 times:

Ok, maybe this could be a repost, but I made a research and was not able to find it. When I first saw this video I even thought that the wheels were passing by water ponds or something, but no, it was that the aircraft was skidding. For a moment it seemed to me it was going out of control. I thought maybe he was instructed to perform an immediate take off as if another aircraft were on short final. I believe that the wheels got some kind of damage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoGeKdNxH4U

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User currently offlinetb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1634 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5195 times:

They just scrubbed the nose wheels. That will happen if you have the tiller turned too much and add power. They probably just got into too much of a hurry and should have gotten the nose gear straightened out more before shoving the power in. It can happen during taxiing and landing too if you are going to fast for the amount the wheel is turned for that given speed.


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User currently offlineKPWMSpotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 457 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5020 times:

I can just picture Jeremy Clarkson at the controls screaming "POWWERRR!!!"

Probably took a few weeks off of the effective lives of those tires, but it's not that unusual to have some slippage of the nose wheels, or sometimes even the mains. There's a lot of power available, and not much weight on the wheels at all, can't expect sports-car handling on the ground.



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User currently offlineAmericanAirFan From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 408 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4804 times:

Here is another video of skidding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py7SWc8iO9g&feature=player_embedded



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User currently offlineLemmy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4798 times:

Is there any indication on the flightdeck that the nosewheels are skidding? Any noise or vibration?


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User currently offlinen901wa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4756 times:

Becuse of the angle of the nose gear on the DC-9/MD88/90, if you turn the tiller too hard on it will go up on 1 nose wheel. With running up on 1 wheel and mostly side wall you get the skidding, and is ok. It will also happen on the DC-10 / MD-11. I have been on a 90 and MD-11 when skidding during taxiing, and there is a vibration and sound in the flt deck. But when I was on the above acft it was during mtc and was light, so not sure on a heavy loaded acft. HTH

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17119 posts, RR: 66
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4712 times:

If that Monarch pilot had been on a motorbike, he'd have done a highside! 


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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4469 times:
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Quoting n901wa (Reply 5):
Becuse of the angle of the nose gear on the DC-9/MD88/90, if you turn the tiller too hard on it will go up on 1 nose wheel. With running up on 1 wheel and mostly side wall you get the skidding, and is ok. It will also happen on the DC-10 / MD-11.

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User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4381 times:

Seen it before, the MD's are notorious for this. The tire will definitely need to be checked when it lands. But at worse now the tire has a major flatspot, which may cause an annoying vibration.

User currently offlinePGNCS From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 2843 posts, RR: 45
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4292 times:

Quoting Lemmy (Reply 4):
Is there any indication on the flightdeck that the nosewheels are skidding?

It is obvious via feedback in the tiller (Captain side only) and vibration; there's no light or anything like that.

Quoting Lemmy (Reply 4):
Any noise or vibration?

It is quite noticable.

Quoting n901wa (Reply 5):
Becuse of the angle of the nose gear on the DC-9/MD88/90, if you turn the tiller too hard on it will go up on 1 nose wheel. With running up on 1 wheel and mostly side wall you get the skidding, and is ok

The MD-80 and MD-90 series have VERY long wheelbases and very high tiller forces at large angles; they can be quite challenging aircraft to taxi in certain circumstances.


User currently offlineBlueJuice From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 252 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4284 times:

The pilot of the King Air probably needed to change his underwear.

User currently offlinegatorman96 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 874 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4185 times:

Would there be any reason to abort takeoff altogether and go back to the gate for a maintenance check in this situation?

Seems like there would be potential for the nose gear tire(s) to blowout on takeoff roll.



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