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The Most Boring Time For The Pilots  
User currently offlineemrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 941 posts, RR: 7
Posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 12030 times:

Hi everyone,

I know that a cockpit is the best office in the world   But I also wonder which is the most boring time for a pilot during a flight? (waiting at the gate for a take off clearence, waiting for an empty gate after landing, long take off sequenes, etc.)

Thnx in advance

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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9077 posts, RR: 76
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 12022 times:
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User currently offlineflyhossd From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 906 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 12034 times:

The most boring time for an airline pilot? That's easy - the same (year after year, decade after decade) recurrent ground school!


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User currently offlineSEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 6964 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 11525 times:

Ernest Gann described a pilot's job as "hours and hours of boredom punctuated by moments of sheer terror." And that was in the 40's, much of it during a war, and when automation was primitive compared to today's. It also did not feature 14 hour flights. Also, considering the comparative safety records of then vs. today, I suspect that the moments of sheer terror are far less frequent.


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User currently offlineweb500sjc From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 11430 times:
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Long solo cross country flights across rural Illinois....


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User currently offlineMD88Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1333 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 11349 times:

LAX-SYD about 6hrs after takeoff. Only 9 more to go. CPDLC. No radio work. Dark with nothing to look at. That's boring. Domestically, I'd say a 4 1/2 hr sit between flights in any airport is tough.

User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 11116 times:

Quoting MD88Captain (Reply 5):
LAX-SYD about 6hrs after takeoff. Only 9 more to go. CPDLC. No radio work. Dark with nothing to look at. That's boring.

True. Although the star-gazing under those conditions is absolutely magnificent.

Tom.


User currently offlinevio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1441 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 11097 times:

Depends what type of pilot you are. I think waiting for a call (medivac) while trying to kill time in a crew house, somewhere in the Canadian Arctic, with -50C temperatures outside. That's the most boring part in my opinion.


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User currently offlineMD88Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1333 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 11039 times:

Vio, I feel your pain. Caddyshack is only funny for the first 100 viewings.

User currently offlinevio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1441 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 11016 times:

Quoting MD88Captain (Reply 8):
Caddyshack is only funny for the first 100 viewings.

   LOL!!! How true!



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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6226 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 10369 times:

Quoting vio (Reply 7):
Depends what type of pilot you are. I think waiting for a call (medivac) while trying to kill time in a crew house, somewhere in the Canadian Arctic, with -50C temperatures outside. That's the most boring part in my opinion.

Unless you have a single attractive female pilot to keep you warm  I think Vio is not telling us the whole story here.   



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User currently offlineStabilator From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 717 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9804 times:

Filling out nav logs in the middle-of-nowhere North Dakota.


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User currently offlinevio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1441 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 9405 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 10):
Unless you have a single attractive female pilot to keep you warm  I think Vio is not telling us the whole story here.   

Well, what happens in the North stays in the North...   However wishful that may be, I assure you it's almost as rare as seeing an arctic fox  

Ah, here's another boring thing... waiting at the airport (when off rotation) to get onto a (stby) flight... that's always fun. "Go or no go?"



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User currently offline777ord From United States of America, joined May 2010, 516 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8752 times:

Flying across Iowa with a 35kt headwind..... in a C-172!!! Spending your time coutning how many cars are passing you below, OR, how many cops/speed traps you can see.

User currently offlinemy235 From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8391 times:

Quoting SEPilot (Reply 3):
It also did not feature 14 hour flights.

Actually Trans-Atlantic flights in the 40's were 20hrs+. i.e. PanAm Clippers.


User currently offlineairproxx From France, joined Jun 2008, 638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7985 times:

Most boring time while I was a business airline pilot: 7 hours spent on ground in Wroclaw, Poland, during winter, with -10°C, waiting for a dude having an appointment there. When you spend all this time in a Citation Jet with no APU and nothing but some good old Jeppesen paperwork to do... Yeah your pilot job can be boooooooooring!


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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6226 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7985 times:

Quoting 777ord (Reply 13):
Flying across Iowa with a 35kt headwind..... in a C-172!!! Spending your time coutning how many cars are passing you below, OR, how many cops/speed traps you can see.

Actually I've done BZE-RTB with a 35kt headwind in a GA8 (even slower than a 172) with a luggage pod. I swear the cruise ship below overtook us.



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User currently offlinecanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2841 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7913 times:

Quoting MD88Captain (Reply 5):
Domestically, I'd say a 4 1/2 hr sit between flights in any airport is tough.

Some of the most bored pilots I've ever met were sitting around the gate waiting for the inbound flight to come in after a 3 hour snow delay so they could do the transcon turn in the middle of the night. No crew lounge, just the Starbucks down terminal, about to close and being harassed by irritated passengers.

Quoting vio (Reply 7):
I think waiting for a call (medivac) while trying to kill time in a crew house, somewhere in the Canadian Arctic, with -50C temperatures outside. That's the most boring part in my opinion.

True, but not limited to medivac pilots. I'd bet many a poor charter pilot has spent time in a small airport in Nebraska, Saskatchewan or North Dakota without a reasonable FBO well away from town with no crew car. The iPad and downloadable movies might be the best thing that ever happened to the low time charter pilot.

Quoting MD88Captain (Reply 8):
Caddyshack is only funny for the first 100 viewings.

In the entire 7 years I worked at an FBO, the movie collection in our crew lounge never changed. I'm convinced we had pilots that had seen Ghostbusters at least 50 times. I had some of them stuck for the whole day ride around with me on a fuel truck or tug to pass the time.



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User currently offlineSalukipilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7242 times:

Quoting web500sjc (Reply 4):
Long solo cross country flights across rural Illinois....

Never!

It's the 4:35 sits we have in LaGuardia and Pittsburgh that kill me.



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User currently offlinevio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1441 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6828 times:

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 17):
The iPad and downloadable movies might be the best thing that ever happened to the low time charter pilot.

Amen! Words of wisdom. Every single pilot at our company has an iPad and or iPhone. I guess there are things called "books", but I don't know how many of us like that... after all, that's why we became pilots  

[Edited 2011-10-03 14:35:18]


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21701 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6609 times:

Quoting vio (Reply 19):
Every single pilot at our company has an iPad and or iPhone. I guess there are things called "books", but I don't know how many of us like that... after all, that's why we became pilots

An iPad is thinner than a book, which counts for a lot in a crowded flight bag.

-Mir



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User currently offlinelowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5856 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 16):
in a GA8

Is that the one with the heated trailing edges in case a cold front overtakes you?

Quoting flyhossd (Reply 2):
recurrent ground school

I will agree with this one.

Otherwise for me it is some point between the halfway mark and the 2 hours out point. You have exhausted most topics of conversation, you are getting tired, but the thought of any more coffee at this point makes you start to twitch. That is the worst time for me.



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17069 posts, RR: 66
Reply 22, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5816 times:

Quoting SEPilot (Reply 3):
And that was in the 40's, much of it during a war, and when automation was primitive compared to today's. It also did not feature 14 hour flights.

Actually it did. Plenty of flights were that long, both civil and military.

Quoting airproxx (Reply 15):
Most boring time while I was a business airline pilot: 7 hours spent on ground in Wroclaw, Poland, during winter, with -10°C, waiting for a dude having an appointment there. When you spend all this time in a Citation Jet with no APU and nothing but some good old Jeppesen paperwork to do... Yeah your pilot job can be boooooooooring!

Bring a book? 



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User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5816 times:

As they say, flying is tons of hours of shear boredom with occasional seconds of shear terror 

So far as a CFI I won't say it never gets boring, it definitely keeps you on your toes. That being said, Texas is too damned flat, I liked flying in the mountains. And it's never bumpy out here, or windy. And all I ever see outside the DFW area where I fly out of is thousands of natural gas wells and the occasional cow. So even a short XC between DFW and OKC gets boring real fast.


User currently offline26point2 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 837 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5521 times:

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 23):
And it's never bumpy out here, or windy.

Funny. I hope you're joking. It's usually windy and bumpy when I fly to Texas. Just bad luck I guess.

I'm usually bored after the first hour and before the last hour unless I'm eating. Crosswords are a good distractor.


25 web500sjc : so I guess this is a topic change, what do you do to pass the time? I count cornfields, but i'm hoping to figure out something else to do.
26 Fly2HMO : No way nearly as bad as in northern AZ so far. For once since I've been here its actually been bumpy and somewhat windy these last few days.
27 ILUV767 : Cruise flight can be the most interesting or the most boring part of the flight. It depends on the rest of the crew. Some people are just harder to ta
28 MD11Engineer : Actually some WW2 maritime patrol aircraft like the PBY Catalina were capable of doing flights of up to 20 hours, albeit at low speed, like when sear
29 canoecarrier : When Lufthansa was testing the FW 200 Condor in 1938 they flew it non-stop from Berlin-Staaken to Floyd Bennett Field in New York City 24 hours, 56 m
30 Post contains images foxxray : I can't agree more
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