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User currently offlineEASTERN747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 377 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4223 times:

Whenever I view picturers of new test aircraft, I noticed a wire/line hanging off the top of tail with a box at the end. What is this? test equipment?

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User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2235 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4069 times:

It is called a trailing cone.
"Trailing cones (or trailing wires as they are often incorrectly called or trailing static cones), were first developed and tested in the 1950s and 1960's as a simple means of calibrating the static pressure (altitude reporting) error of an aircraft's pitot-static_system. It does this by giving an accurate measurement of the ambient atmospheric pressure (static pressure) well clear of the aircraft's fuselage. The trailing cone system trails generally 1 to 1.5 times the wing span length behind the aircraft via a high-strength pressure tube. Static pressure is measured forward of the cone by several static ports. The cone stabilizes and aligns the ports relative to the freestream airflow."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trailing_Cone


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User currently offlineogre727 From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 693 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4055 times:

Are you sure it´s not the price tag?


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User currently offlineEASTERN747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3940 times:

The cone didn't look that long....lolololololol...thanks

User currently offlineLTC8K6 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 415 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3677 times:

Quoting EASTERN747 (Reply 3):
The cone didn't look that long....lolololololol...thanks

I think they reel it in for takeoffs and landings.

User currently offlineScooter01 From Norway, joined Nov 2006, 1154 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3389 times:
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Quoting LTC8K6 (Reply 4):
I think they reel it in for takeoffs and landings.

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User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3297 times:

Quoting LTC8K6 (Reply 4):
I think they reel it in for takeoffs and landings.

There are fixed and retractable trailing cones...retractables have a winch like what you see in Reply 5.

Fixed cones are strung out behind the aircraft prior to takeoff and then picked up by a vehicle or something similar after landing. Fixed cones are good when you only need it a few times, since they're way simpler to install.

Tom.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3146 times:

Looks manually operated or is there a motor to it....


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User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3081 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 7):

Looks manually operated or is there a motor to it....

Both types exist. The one in the photo in Reply 5 has a motor.

Tom.

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2004, 15870 posts, RR: 66
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3074 times:

So there are actually trailing cone galley slaves? Cool.


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2893 times:

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 8):

Both types exist. The one in the photo in Reply 5 has a motor.

Not Important but just curious....What motor....AC or DC.


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User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2712 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 10):
Not Important but just curious....What motor....AC or DC.

I don't actually know...I suspect DC but that's just a wild guess based on the fact that the instrumentation guys tend to like DC better than AC.

Tom.

User currently offlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1380 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2709 times:

Looking at some first-flight videos it seems Airbus don't use this setup. What is Airbus doing differently?


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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2678 times:

Airbus must use a different type probe, see the addition at the top of the vertical stabilizer in picture 1. They removed it in picture 2.

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User currently offlineLTC8K6 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 415 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2584 times:

The A380 used the trailing cone during testing as well.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Airbu...dustrie/Airbus-A380-841/0902915/L/

[Edited 2011-10-07 11:32:26]

User currently offlinebroke From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1322 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2564 times:

A carrier I worked for was certifying their L-1011's for RVSM operations. Lockheed was not going to do that for the operator but they did provide us with the information on the installation and use of a trailing cone as part of the project to measure the accuracy of the altitude measurement system.
It turned out that all L-1011's built had provisions for the installation of a trailing cone. We installed one and extended and retracted it manually during the certification flights. It help us to certify the L-1011's for RVSM with surprising little difficulty.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2385 times:

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 11):
I don't actually know...I suspect DC but that's just a wild guess based on the fact that the instrumentation guys tend to like DC better than AC.

Thats one guess based on liking which is surely unreliable  


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