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What Is An Emergency Turn?  
User currently offlineAjaaron From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 113 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2834 times:

On take off performa, there is sometimes an emergency turn. Is this specific to the airport or aircraft?

Oh, and what is it?

Thanks.

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User currently offlineJetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2787 times:

Would you be referring to an Emergency Return? It is simply a return to the airport of departure under emergency conditions. An emergency turn? Personally, I've never the phrase before.

User currently offlineAjaaron From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2766 times:

for example, on departure from RWY 26L at London Gatwick (EGKK) there is an emergency turn, 'if there is an engine failure on take off, 'we turn left 15 degrees'

Quote from a Virgin Captain brifeing his crew before departure, 747-200


User currently offline411A From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1826 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2760 times:

An emergency turn refers to a turn to avoid terrain/obstacles in the event of an engine failure, sometimes very necessary at some locations.

User currently offlineJetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2748 times:

Just for grins, I tried looking up the phrase "Emergency Turn" in the AIM and FAR's. I couldn't find it. I agree with 411A's answer though. If you want a prime example of an airport where this would be a major part of the briefing just go to Aspen, Colorado (KASE). A question for you 411A - what does the "411A" refer to? The twin Cessna?


User currently offlineAzeem From Pakistan, joined Jul 2000, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2701 times:

I think I know what this post is about. Some years ago.. a United 747-400 had an incident..i.e. right after lift off...one of the starboard engines stalled...so the PF give inputs to avoid colliding with the small mountain peak. After the engine stalled..the aircraft drifted to the right towards the mountain. I think this is the 'emergency turn' that this post is all about.

User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4195 posts, RR: 37
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2690 times:

Im gonna have to lean more toward what Jetguy and 411A are saying.

The United incident was the FO's screw up for forgetting his multi-engine training and not using any rudder and completely losing focus on the situation. That 747 missed the hill by only around 100 feet. That incident has been used for quite a few CRM videos now. That I would called an "Oh my goodness 100 feet lower and United Airlines would have been out of business" turn.



Chicks dig winglets.
User currently offlineTAA_Airbus From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 726 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2658 times:

Im not going to say anything cos Ive no idea, however, at Honolulu as soon as your airborne we make a right turn to avoid the Waikiki area. If thats of any relevance to this.

Thats probably just for the benefits of noise abatement


User currently offline411A From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1826 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2650 times:

The phrase "emergency turn" will be found on many European runway analysis / performance charts, and as such it is not in wide use in the USA.
Jetguy-----yes.



User currently offlineJetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2640 times:

411A,
My first flying job was as an airtour pilot at the Grand Canyon. We had three 411's. I think that they've probably all crashed by now. Big grin


User currently offline411A From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1826 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2635 times:

Jetguy--
The 411 was Cessna's first cabin-class twin and had a few problems in the hands of inexperienced pilots. However, if properly flown, it is quite fast and very comfortable and quiet. I delivered two from the factory in 1967 and the Cessna training provided was comprehensive and well presented. Those who own and fly them regularly appreciate their fine points.


User currently offlineJetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2623 times:

They were the first multi's that I ever flew back in the mid 70's when I was starting my career. I ended up with about 1000 hours in them, including an honest to goodness engine failure coming out of KGCN. We had a couple of 67's and a 68 model if I remember correctly. Our company liked them because they had more power than a 402 and they could be purchased for quite a bit less money. In later years, they have had an unsavory reputation, but we had few problems with them. Our boss was a stickler on the proper operation of the geared engines. I enjoyed flying them, it was nice having the extra power compared to the 402's. Merry Christmas!
Jetguy


User currently offlineCricri From France, joined Oct 1999, 581 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2548 times:

Don't u mean a QRF maybe?

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