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User currently offlineRendezvous From New Zealand, joined May 2001, 515 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1239 times:

I just wondered what conditions are needed for contrails to appear behind the jet engines?

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User currently offlineDragogoalie From Australia, joined Oct 2001, 1220 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1147 times:

"Many people are familiar with the long streaks of white clouds produced by jets flying at high altitudes. The clouds which are made up of condensed vapor called condensation trails, or contrails, are generally produced by jets flying between 25,000 and 40,000 feet in moist air. If the relative humidity is low, contrails may evaporate rather quickly, however, in high relative humidity conditions, contrails may remain visible for several hours. This indication of moisture content may point to other clouds and, possibly, precipitation moving into the area within the next day or two" (Jeppesen Private Pilot Manual p 6-26)

here you go, hope that helps. They also have a diagram showing that most of the contrail (if not all of it) is actualy made up of ice crystals, not water vapor.

--dragogoalie-#88--



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User currently offlinePositive rate From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 2143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1142 times:

On some really moist days the contrails are really long and defined and they can remain for up to 30 mins if the conditions are right. Sometimes a contrail will even dissipate and form a Cirrus cloud- quite amazing really!

User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1073 times:

Contrails are rather interesting. I like spotting planes at high altitude so I see alot of them. If you use the search feature you will find several posts about this subject.
Thanks,Alex


User currently offlineRendezvous From New Zealand, joined May 2001, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1034 times:

THanks

User currently offlineTwotterwrench From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1038 times:

Of course, there is the "new" explanation for contrails precipitated by Art Bell and his crowd of "they're coming to take me away" and "the internet is used for government mind control" people who say contrails are actually "chemtrails" sprayed by the US govt for every conceivable purpose including weather control and mind control. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 999 times:

Twotterwrench,
there is actually a yahoo club or group about chemtrails LOL!Needless to say there about 5 members.
Alex


User currently offlineAv8trxx From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 657 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 984 times:


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A contrail forms because one of the components of jet engine exhaust is water. Jet fuel is made of carbon and hydrogen. When jet fuel burns with oxygen, most of the exhaust consists of CO2 (carbon dioxide) and H2O (water). The water is generally an invisible vapor. When you exhale, your breath contains a great deal of invisible water vapor as well. You may have noticed that on certain days in the winter your breath will form a cloud of condensation when you exhale. In the summer, however, you don't see your breath. In the winter the moisture in your breath hits the cold air and condenses into visible water vapor. Cold air can hold a lot less moisture than warm air, so the moisure form a visible cloud when you exhale.

The same thing happens when a jet engine "exhales". If the temperature, winds and humidity in the upper atmosphere are right, long white contrails form when the moisture in the exhaust condenses forming those long white contrails.



User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5499 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 959 times:

Actually, after a while, it appears that the contrail that was left hours ago, may appear to be a Cirrus cloud!

Continental


User currently offlineCloudNine From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 918 times:

I'm gonna go the the Art Bell view. I kinda get this "fuzzy/goofy" feeling a few hours after standing under 3 or 4 of those contrails. The government is up to something ?....!!!....? I just know it!.....Peace On Earth OOops,gotta go! just saw another flying sauc.......

User currently offlineDarius From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 898 times:

As stated above, the relative humidity must be high for contrails, but the winds have to be calm too, in order to preserve the contrail's shape.

How serious is this chemtrail story? It can't be more than just a joke that people really believe it, can it??
 Confused


User currently offlinePositive rate From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 2143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 883 times:

I've seen many contrails form into Cirrus clouds. I live under a major flightpath and on clear and calm days the contrails form cirrus clouds and last for hours and hours.

User currently offlineTwotterwrench From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 876 times:

Darius - Be afraid.. be very afraid....

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