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Question About LHR T5C Jetways  
User currently offlinePC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2424 posts, RR: 5
Posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4621 times:

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What is the purpose of the structure (the little building) in between the actual terminal building and the aircraft? I've seen other pics of these types of structures but have wondered what they are for.


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User currently offlinespeedmarque From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 684 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4599 times:

We call them "nodes" They house a ground staff work station, an elevator, the Turnaround managers office and stairs to the ramp.

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User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4581 times:

Its called the node and has a number of different functions.
It connects the static bit of the jetty to the moving part, the bottom part contains a office for the TRM with a computer phone etc. The node also has an area for for BA staff and there is a lift to take bags and buggy's and wheelchairs from the gate level to be loaded onto the aircraft.


User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4553 times:

So these are essentially pillboxes on steroids? Makes the pillboxes at most of the gates at ATL look like closets, which they practically are.

User currently offlinezanl188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3504 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4541 times:
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Looks to me like it reduces the required length of the moving portion of the jet bridge, which in turn increase the number of gates and provides for the airside road between the aircraft and the building. Note the aircraft gates in the upper left and lower right that are not immediately adjacent to the aircraft.


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User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 3):
So these are essentially pillboxes on steroids? Makes the pillboxes at most of the gates at ATL look like closets, which they practically are.

I guess you could say that haha


User currently offlineplanejamie From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2011, 576 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4496 times:

I also presume that they allow for boarding by bus whilst another aircraft is on stand if it requires it?

Another question, why don't the windows face the aircraft you're due to fly on? Instead, they face the other jetbridge


User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4473 times:

Quoting planejamie (Reply 6):
I also presume that they allow for boarding by bus whilst another aircraft is on stand if it requires it?

Nope. T5 has dedicated coaching gates, you would not board via a stand that has a pier on it.


User currently offlinePC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2424 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4416 times:

Cool, thanks guys. I even thought at one point it my have been something to do with customs. But there I go thinkin' too hard again.  


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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17002 posts, RR: 67
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4379 times:

Quoting planejamie (Reply 6):
Another question, why don't the windows face the aircraft you're due to fly on? Instead, they face the other jetbridge

You mean the windows on the terminal building itself on the same floor as the jetbridge? From memory, the departure area is actually on the top level (which has windows all over) and you take stairs down to the jetbridge to board. But my memory may be betraying me.



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User currently offlinekl5147 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4300 times:

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 9):
You mean the windows on the terminal building itself on the same floor as the jetbridge?

I think he refers to the jetbridges them-self. They have windows on one side only, and they do not face the plane you're boarding, but only allow a view to the next parking stand.



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17002 posts, RR: 67
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4295 times:

Quoting kl5147 (Reply 10):
Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 9):
You mean the windows on the terminal building itself on the same floor as the jetbridge?

I think he refers to the jetbridges them-self. They have windows on one side only, and they do not face the plane you're boarding, but only allow a view to the next parking stand.

Ah I see now. This is something only enthusiasts care about, and we're not the target market.  



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User currently offlinespeedbird9 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4235 times:

Quoting planejamie (Reply 6):
Another question, why don't the windows face the aircraft you're due to fly on? Instead, they face the other jetbridge

Think about it where is the photo taken from? An aircraft!
Its probably to maximise advertising from aircraft taking off, taxing and landing
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they all point towards 27L/09R
any thoughts why?



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User currently offlineplanejamie From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2011, 576 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4220 times:

Quoting speedbird9 (Reply 12):
they all point towards 27L/09R
any thoughts why?

Very good point but considering that HSBC is plastered all over LHR, it seems a bit silly to let them face the departing/arriving aircraft remembering that most people don't pay any attention to the ads and can barely read them from that distance! The inside part of those from memory is also covered in HSBC adverts as well...


User currently offlineJetlagged From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 2543 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4219 times:

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 11):
Ah I see now. This is something only enthusiasts care about, and we're not the target market.

Actually it's somewhere for HSBC to put hang their adverts. Helps pay the bills.   T5 satellites B and C are actually pretty good for visibility of aircraft and airport operation from the upper level gate area where you wait for flights. T5A somewhat less so.



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22734 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4214 times:

Quoting PC12Fan (Reply 8):
Cool, thanks guys. I even thought at one point it my have been something to do with customs. But there I go thinkin' too hard again.

That's not as outlandish as you suggest - it's exactly how DTW works.



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User currently offlinespeedbird9 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4203 times:

Quoting planejamie (Reply 13):

Quoting speedbird9 (Reply 12):
they all point towards 27L/09R
any thoughts why?

Very good point but considering that HSBC is plastered all over LHR, it seems a bit silly to let them face the departing/arriving aircraft remembering that most people don't pay any attention to the ads and can barely read them from that distance! The inside part of those from memory is also covered in HSBC adverts as well...

I suppose a large Multinational Company like HSBC, one of the largest companies in the world will have their reasons
and maybe like Jetlagged said:

Quoting Jetlagged (Reply 14):
Actually it's somewhere for HSBC to put hang their adverts. Helps pay the bills.   T5 satellites B and C are actually pretty good for visibility of aircraft and airport operation from the upper level gate area where you wait for flights. T5A somewhat less so.

If its not advertising space its wasted space



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User currently offlinespeedmarque From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 684 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4105 times:

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 7):
Quoting planejamie (Reply 6):
I also presume that they allow for boarding by bus whilst another aircraft is on stand if it requires it?

Nope. T5 has dedicated coaching gates, you would not board via a stand that has a pier on it.

Yes actually. Sometimes the jetty breaks and pax walk down the first part of the jetway to the node, then down the stairs in the node, across the ramp and up stairs to the aircraft.


User currently offlineplanejamie From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2011, 576 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4001 times:

Quoting speedmarque (Reply 17):
Yes actually. Sometimes the jetty breaks and pax walk down the first part of the jetway to the node, then down the stairs in the node, across the ramp and up stairs to the aircraft.

I've had to do this at Terminal 2 at MAN, but not that the jetway broke was that the AF A318 couldn't park between two heavies on one of the stands so while the jetbridge could be used, we had to board the bus at the bottom of a similar style of "node".

I wish Rome would have the same sort of thing, when I flew (ironically BA) to FCO in Summer 2010, we arrived at the gate and the jetbridge lost power so couldn't move to the aircraft... we were stuck on a nearly full A321 for 30 minutes and whilst I have nothing against Italians, they're not the most polite people at times like this and were basically pushing to the front so it wasn't pleasant...


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22734 posts, RR: 20
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3922 times:

Quoting speedmarque (Reply 17):
Sometimes the jetty breaks and pax walk down the first part of the jetway to the node, then down the stairs in the node, across the ramp and up stairs to the aircraft.

Does this happen a lot in Europe? It's quite rare in the States, so much so that there aren't really formal contingency plans to deal with it.



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User currently offlineplanejamie From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2011, 576 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3848 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 19):
Does this happen a lot in Europe? It's quite rare in the States, so much so that there aren't really formal contingency plans to deal with it.

Not much in my experience except in Rome, but that could be anything! Then again, in the States you board ERJs and similar via jetbridges (plus most airports seem to have them!), so I guess it's rare to use the stairs!


User currently offlinemusapapaya From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3842 times:

I do not like the jetbridges there as they are not the ones made with glass like what you see in MUC or ZRH.


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24906 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3795 times:

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 9):
From memory, the departure area is actually on the top level (which has windows all over) and you take stairs down to the jetbridge to board.

Escalators, not stairs, at least at the T5 gates I've used. In fact LHR T5 seems to have more than it's share of escalators. You always seem to be going up and down escalators (some very long) as you make your way through the terminal. I can't think of many other airport terminals where you also have to use an escalator to board a flight from each gate.


User currently offlineacedriver From China, joined Nov 2011, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2898 times:

Quoting planejamie (Reply 6):
Another question, why don't the windows face the aircraft you're due to fly on? Instead, they face the other jetbridge

As far as I can remember, there are no windows on the normal jetbridges at all, the windows are only available on 551, 558, 561 and 568 - that is, the four corner gates


User currently offlinedarksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1347 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2885 times:

Quoting zanl188 (Reply 4):
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Looks to me like it reduces the required length of the moving portion of the jet bridge, which in turn increase the number of gates and provides for the airside road between the aircraft and the building.

We actually do the same thing here at DFW too. There is a fixed portion of the jetbridge that runs beneath skylink, and the swivels are all outboard of that. And beneath them in turn is the inner service road. Even now, I still get a little uncomfortable driving that road as it feels like a huge no-no, going beneath the peers like that (as it would be almost anywhere else).

Terminal D and some of the older portions of C & A where the skylink moves away from the gates do not have this, which often confuses the noobs further still...



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